2018 - 210 or 230?

[Az182]

Hi Guys,

I'm looking for some feedback on the 2014 + 210 and 230. Which boat puts out the better surf wave, and which gives the best wakeboard wake? I've demo'd both but only had pro ballast, in my opinion, the 210 gave a much better surf wave with this ballast set up, but I've read so many posts on here raving about the 230 wakes with more weight saying theyre as good as a current G23? I was unable to load the boats up more than factory pro ballast.

I prefer the look 230, and I'm reading that the surf wave is better on the 230 with more weight, but worried about getting enough weight in it, being a small crew of 3 most of the time, and also the quality of the wakeboard wake, has anyone got experience of both to compare? I really don't want to have any ballast bags on the deck.

Thanks

Aaron

[cedarcreek216]

If you hVe the extra cash and space buy the 230, and this coming from someone who just put an order in on 2018 210. The extra space on the 230 is great and the surf wave will be better when you change the pro ballast bags out for 600 or 750 sacs.


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[doug69]

I can’t speak for the 210 but have a 2016 230 with the bow bag and 750s in the lockers and it puts out a great wave. I go out with just my wife and 10 year old daughter and the wave is not noticeably worse than with a full crew.


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[jondavis08]

You’ll get a better wake boarding wake with a 210 but better surf with a 230. However the surf is still really good on a 210 and the wake on 230 is fun as well. Comes down to space, price and what wake you’d compromise a little on. I mostly wakeboard and love the 210 wake. I also like that I can get a decent slalom wake as well.


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[scottb7]

The above is probably true with stock ballast. But weighted over stock, the 230 will be a much bigger wakeboard wake.

There were days that my crew and I decided we wanted biggest wake possible so we took his 230 instead of my 210. And we of course were over stock ballast. And we kept score, as the 230 kicked each of our asses.

230 1 point, rider 0.
230 2 points, rider 0.
230 3 points, rider 0.
230 4 points, rider 0.

Everyone crashed and burned...not ready for the size and kick of the wake.

The 230 wake over stock is huge, firm, and vertical. It is super fun!!!!!!!!!!! You just wanted to get back on it and try again. As close I would probably ever get to wanting to get on a bucking bronco.

The 210 wake is awesome, more narrow, pretty vertical, and more manageable depending on your skill level.

And yeah, the 210 surf really **** well, but not as big or as long as the 230.

[Infinity]

You would not need bags on the deck with 230, just upgrade to the bigger locker bags...and if you want bigger, add lead. Big difference on stock vs upgraded

[cedarcreek216]

You don’t need bags on deck of the 210 either. 750’s in the rear locker and arrow bow sac under front seats and you have a great surf wave. I do not recommend the 230 because the wake or surf wave is significantly better, I just recommend because you can never have too much space. We love everything about our 210, which is why we have a new one on order, but do dream of extra space every now and then, but just can’t justify the extra money right now for us.


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[Shockthis]

I recommend the 210 as well, the wake board wake is solid , even with a small crew and the surf wave is pretty good if maximize the locker space and use a bow sac.

[bandit628]

To me if wake is your first priority get a 210. If Surf get a 230. I love the 210 to board behind. While it sounds like a sacked out the 230 will get you a better wakeboard wake, how often will you ride like this? Plus the 210 will burn less fuel. Just my 2 cents.

[charlesml3]

To me if wake is your first priority get a 210. If Surf get a 230. I love the 210 to board behind. While it sounds like a sacked out the 230 will get you a better wakeboard wake, how often will you ride like this? Plus the 210 will burn less fuel. Just my 2 cents.

Ha! Yea. It'll burn a little less fuel. Probably not even enough less to notice. If anyone here is even slightly concerned about fuel consumption, they should run. Run fast, run far....

-Charles

[bandit628]

Ha! Yea. It'll burn a little less fuel. Probably not even enough less to notice. If anyone here is even slightly concerned about fuel consumption, they should run. Run fast, run far....

-Charles

Sorry I guess I'm the only one that doesn't like shelling out money for gas. Can I afford it, yes. Do I like it, no.

Why shouldn't gas consumption be considered? I'm sure most people look at this when they buy a car.

[charlesml3]

Sorry I guess I'm the only one that doesn't like shelling out money for gas. Can I afford it, yes. Do I like it, no.

Why shouldn't gas consumption be considered? I'm sure most people look at this when they buy a car.

Well, just run the numbers. My Audi gets almost 30 mpg at 60 mph. That's 2 gallons per 60 miles, or 2 gallons/hour at 60 mph.

My boat burns nearly 6 gallons/hour at 11.2 mph. That's about 1.8 mpg.

As I said before, if you're worried about gas consumption, you're most definitely in the WRONG kind of boat. There is nothing even nearly "fuel efficient" about these boats given how we use them.

-Charles

[GMLIII]

Well, just run the numbers. My Audi gets almost 30 mpg at 60 mph. That's 2 gallons per 60 miles, or 2 gallons/hour at 60 mph.

My boat burns nearly 6 gallons/hour at 11.2 mph. That's about 1.8 mpg.

As I said before, if you're worried about gas consumption, you're most definitely in the WRONG kind of boat. There is nothing even nearly "fuel efficient" about these boats given how we use them.

-Charles

Yep I would agree. Might as well throw mpg out the window because it is nebulous in the grand scheme of things with these boat

[Infinity]

I agree that you cannot buy a boat like this and worry if you will have enough money to pay for the fuel. Honestly when I bought my 2014 boat, I expected terrible fuel burn and was expecting 8-10GPH. To my surprise, I have averaged 4.5GPH fully ballasted surfing (and love that with PCM you can run 87 without issue cause its so easy to find without ethenol here). GPH is a factor for me and something I will consider when I buy my next boat. Not cause I cannot afford it, but cause not thinking about stuff like that is how you could get to a place where you may not be able to comfortably afford a boat like this. Its not just the GPH of this boat....its that thinking in all things I do. IMO, its partly why I am in a position where I don't have to worry about money. Over last 10yrs I changed my thinking...if I could afford a million dollar home, I bought one for 500k and saved the extra, instead of 65k truck...buy a 40k truck and save the extra. Obviously when wealthy enough stuff like that wont matter, but I am not at that place yet so I try to think smart (when possible) so I can retire early and enjoy life to the fullest. I have "heard", that the rich stay rich by being stingy, lol.
Being a custom home builder, I can tell you I would rather build a home for someone with mediocre means that someone who is very wealthy, seems to always be the super wealthy people that try to get out of paying their bills, or will beat you down at end of contract, or hold that money till the very last moment so they make that last $0.05 of interest before they let the money go....weird, I know. Maybe they know something I don't know yet

[GMLIII]

Totally understand, I'm 56 now and have been involved in watersports activities for 45 plus years so I'm done with worrying about what fuel cost or the mpg because at the end of the day it is pointless. It is all about having fun on the water in your boat; fuel economy makes no sense on the water period. Bottom line if you are worry about fuel economy on the water you should not be boating anyway. Just how I feel whether I'm right or wrong.