2004 SANTE 210 Ballast Upgrade

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  • funkster
    • Mar 2011
    • 199

    • Washington,state

    • 87' Ski Nautique(sold) :( & 98' Super Sport

    #16
    Thanks for the feedback on the prop. Any vibration? Could you guess about how long to plane out? When we board I usually just empty some of the rear surf weight, roughly riding with 700 on each side and the wake is still very nice. I tried just to see if I could plane out fully loaded plus 6 people on board and old Betsy couldn't do it...lol


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    • DW SD
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Mar 2015
      • 416

      • San Diego county

      • 2001 SAN 210

      #17
      No vibration at all. Fully loaded, with 3 x 200lb guys on board, maybe 15 seconds to 20mph. The prop is a massive improvement from stock. I'm also at sea level. I'm guessing 2/3rds of that time when empty (empty for me still is 15 x 50 lb ballast steel shot bags from lead wake).

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      • Luebowski
        • Aug 2017
        • 104

        • CA

        • 2004 SANTE 210

        #18
        Now that I am weighted down we are taking on a lot of water, my research shows it is likely leaking in the back where the deck meets the hull. 3M 4200/5200 have been the answer but should be trying to seal the deck from the outside or inside of the boat...or both?? We don't take on much water when partially weighted, only when surfing with the bags full.

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        • Luebowski
          • Aug 2017
          • 104

          • CA

          • 2004 SANTE 210

          #19
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          • brit_hunsicker
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Oct 2014
            • 482

            • Overbrook, KS

            • 2001 Super Air Nautique

            #20
            For some reason I am not able to load the 3 pictures you posted...Are you 110% sure you have no bags or hoses leaking? I’m sure that was the first thing you checked...but I’d hate to see you go chasing something that isn’t there. If it is actually leaking where the two shells meet, taking the rub rail off is easy and if you really are taking on that much water, it should be easy to spot the failure area once removed. Start by taking the decorative caps off the end of rub rail and then pull the center rope out. You will find lots of screws that hold the rub rail on. After removing screws, the rub rail will pull right off.


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            • DW SD
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Mar 2015
              • 416

              • San Diego county

              • 2001 SAN 210

              #21
              I take on water through the engine air intakes occasionally. Is that possible? Others say the supports for the ski step tend to leak. Mine are definitely under water when loaded down. For me, I just make sure my bilge pump is working and pump out the water.

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              • Luebowski
                • Aug 2017
                • 104

                • CA

                • 2004 SANTE 210

                #22
                Originally posted by brit_hunsicker View Post
                For some reason I am not able to load the 3 pictures you posted...Are you 110% sure you have no bags or hoses leaking? I’m sure that was the first thing you checked...but I’d hate to see you go chasing something that isn’t there. If it is actually leaking where the two shells meet, taking the rub rail off is easy and if you really are taking on that much water, it should be easy to spot the failure area once removed. Start by taking the decorative caps off the end of rub rail and then pull the center rope out. You will find lots of screws that hold the rub rail on. After removing screws, the rub rail will pull right off.


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                Now that I think about it, I need to plug the holes on both port and strbrd where the ballast used to empty, that is likely why I am ending up with some water on the top of each of my bags. Last night I looked at where the deck and hull meet at the platform and it seems pretty sealed. Hard to tell on the inside unless I start ripping the carpet back which I'm not excited to do. Thanks for the response...

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                • DW SD
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 416

                  • San Diego county

                  • 2001 SAN 210

                  #23
                  The engine air intakes also would inlet water right on top of the bags, but am guessing you didn't overlook those. My water level is right near the top and bottom joint when I'm loaded down. Good luck!

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                  • Luebowski
                    • Aug 2017
                    • 104

                    • CA

                    • 2004 SANTE 210

                    #24
                    Originally posted by DW SD View Post
                    The engine air intakes also would inlet water right on top of the bags, but am guessing you didn't overlook those. My water level is right near the top and bottom joint when I'm loaded down. Good luck!
                    Hey DW, I did not think there was anything I could do with the engine intakes, is there a fix??

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                    • DW SD
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 416

                      • San Diego county

                      • 2001 SAN 210

                      #25
                      No, I don't think an easy fix to close. I've heard of some using duct tape. This would work just to test. Sufficient air can get to the engine via opening on the outside of the couch, so I think the vents up top are pointless.

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                      • Infinity
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • Sep 2017
                        • 730

                        • Lake Norman - Denver, NC

                        • 2014 SV244 w/ ZR409

                        #26
                        Be careful using 5200, that stuff is permanent and some serious stuff....4200 and 4000 little less so but seal just as well. How it cures is the difference. Only wanna use that in area that you never plan to remove, have heard that stuff can remove gelcoat.
                        Have you had someone back there looking while surfing? If you are getting that much water, maybe something you can narrow down by having someone stare at it for 15mins while you are doing your thing. Looks like a nice setup

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                        • TRIP
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 433

                          • Costa Rica

                          • 1997 Nautique Super Sport

                          #27
                          In my boat I can see water entering when weighted down where the top deck and the hull meet, right in the back corner, only on port side. Think I'll try taking the rub rail off, thanks for the tip brit_hunsicker.

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