G21 or G23?

[Free48]

Is there a definitive guide to creating an excellent surf wave? Why is a great wave so elusive?!?

[scottb7]

GUIDE: Weight the heck out of one side or install or buy a boat with surf gates of some sort, or buy wakeshaper of some sort. This stuff is like $250 bucks. https://nauticurl.com/collections/wa...cts/wakesurfer and it really works.

It may not work for the 10% of people that compete. But 90% of people will agree it is a great wave.

[GMLIII]

Is there a definitive guide to creating an excellent surf wave? Why is a great wave so elusive?!?

Botton line there is no textbook perfect wakesurf set up and it requires constant tweaking . Maybe wakesurfnation will help you find the elusive wave setup?


https://wakesurfnation.com

[Free48]

GMLIII it appears that wakesurfnation.com is a startup - very little content and no discussion on a 210 SANTE.

[GMLIII]

GMLIII it appears that wakesurfnation.com is a startup - very little content and no discussion on a 210 SANTE.

Well then keep searching for the elusive wave set up. The link was only a suggestion

[charlesml3]

Botton line there is no textbook perfect wakesurf set up and it requires constant tweaking . Maybe wakesurfnation will help you find the elusive wave setup?


https://wakesurfnation.com

That's exactly right. A lot of people ask here "What are your settings?" and that just isn't nearly enough. It'll vary all the time by how many people are in the boat, amount of fuel, wind, current, etc. With experimentation and experience you can get it close consistently, then dial it in from there.

-Charles

[whitecaps]

Is there a definitive guide to creating an excellent surf wave? Why is a great wave so elusive?!?

I agree. Its so subjective therefore its elusive. You will never make everyone happy.
We have three kids- same wave and all three have a different opinion on what they like about it. I think we are all spoiled fanatics who think
we are going to bring Honolulu to the lake. Most all these boats (and their waves) are awesome! I would have died to have a Nautique or Mcraft
or any other inboard during my formative years. I really have to take a deep breath when the spitting hairs of wave creation, dimension, push, etc starts being discussed.

[mlsurfco]

GMLIII it appears that wakesurfnation.com is a startup - very little content and no discussion on a 210 SANTE.

Here is a 210 set up by the Jost family, They are very active in the wakesurf community w their daughter competing at a very, very High level


https://wakesurfnation.com/boat_setup/maiden-voyage/

[nohlan_4]

That looks like an HC Pro board. One of my favorites. As you know Hunter moved over to Blusurf. My son is on the Hunter Blusurf board. It is amazing. Even faster / more agile than the Soulcraft. Don't get me wrong I love my Secret Weapon. But the Hunter Blusurf is most likely my next board.

I did get a chance to demo the RI237. Honestly it surfs just like the G23. Very similar wave. But I'm a regular rider. The Goofy side is a bit stronger because it is a deep V hull and the boat lists more to the Goofy side due to the prop torque. Now the RI257. That is another beast all together. Much better / stronger wave than anything on the market. But it is a big boat...and I like the G interior better. I wish Nautique would step up their game on the G23 and 25 surf wave. It needs more ballast and a redesigned NSS that can take greater weight. (At about 4,000lbs in the boat people/ballast/fuel the wave washes out.) We can dream cant we?

It is an HC Pro good eye. I haven't had a chance to talk with any Blu surf guys but Jeff is hard to beat for customer service, can't see the boards being much better anyways it gets so subjective at that upper level of boards anyways.

The 257 is huge! But you are right the G interior is better. I still want to ride the 257 wave though.....looks awesome.

You are right about the too much weight in the G23. I can only run 650's in the rear and have to offset in the bow a lot to keep the NSS not buried. They just need to make the plates taller or something to keep them from being buried I think.

[72Miles]

surferguy, as you can see, questions like yours will illicit passionate responses. It's really not that complicated. The G23 is the best surf boat in the world. Period. There are some legit reasons to pick the G21 though, some of which you named (price, size of crew, etc). My bet is you could buy the 21 and be a happy surfer. Happy shopping!!!