G23 vs New Xstar vs M235

[Cosurfer]

Wow! great analysis of all the boats. I just went through the same agonizing decision and ultimately decided on a new G23 over the X24. I didn't see any comparison on pricing(maybe I missed it)? Are they roughly the same price? I negotiated between both dealers and got a better price for the G. I paid a lot of attention to how well boats hold their value. The G23 seems to hold its value better than the others. Obviously, the X24 has no history. I used the X23 when comparing.

[GMLIII]

Thank you for the advice, as far as lake boats are concerned, aside from a pontoon someone gave me, I've never owned one and have absolutely zero experience with inboards or dealer purchases, so this is newly charted waters for me; hence all the research.... my knowledge is in center consoles and gofasts with manufacturers. With that being said, I can get to both dealers in 5 mins., from the house in Oklahoma, however, I do know the Nautique dealer personally, although the MasterCraft dealer's also been pretty welcoming. FYI, the boat won't just stay in Oklahoma and will probably end up either in Austin, or possibly Miami.

Well if you have access to multiple dealers close by who your trust then you are golden . Most boat owners don't have this luxury

[fearocks]

Wow! great analysis of all the boats. I just went through the same agonizing decision and ultimately decided on a new G23 over the X24. I didn't see any comparison on pricing(maybe I missed it)? Are they roughly the same price? I negotiated between both dealers and got a better price for the G. I paid a lot of attention to how well boats hold their value. The G23 seems to hold its value better than the others. Obviously, the X24 has no history. I used the X23 when comparing.

I didn't want either dealer to give me their best price until I had a clear understanding of each boat... I didn't want to be skewed by price, however, unless the final 2020 releases show a clear winner, I may end up using that as a deciding factor. With that being said, if you look at the base sticker, plus options, they're in the same ballpark, with an advantage going towards the X24.... once the releases are complete, I'll get best pricing and post the spread

[Cosurfer]

I didn't want either dealer to give me their best price until I had a clear understanding of each boat... I didn't want to be skewed by price, however, unless the final 2020 releases show a clear winner, I may end up using that as a deciding factor. With that being said, if you look at the base sticker, plus options, they're in the same ballpark, with an advantage going towards the X24.... once the releases are complete, I'll get best pricing and post

Ya it played a big factor for us because they both have a lot of great features and it was a hard decision. The G was about 7% less than the X24. The G even had more upgrade options. That being said I was negotiating for stock 2019's at the end of the season. If you are buying 2020's the pricing might be closer.

[fearocks]

Well if you have access to multiple dealers close by who your trust then you are golden . Most boat owners don't have this luxury

I guess I shouldn't complain about having to haul it back and forth to Oklahoma, when it's time to trade-in. Is there any other reason I would need to bring it back to the dealer? If something goes wrong, I just take it to a local dealer, correct? It's not too big of a deal if I have to bring it back for something else, considering I've got family to visit, but not sure what that something else would be.... any insight?

[fearocks]

Ya it played a big factor for us because they both have a lot of great features and it was a hard decision. The G was about 7% less than the X24. The G even had more upgrade options. That being said I was negotiating for stock 2019's at the end of the season. If you are buying 2020's the pricing might be closer.

That makes sense and they're so close, it will most likely come down to price. I considered going 2019, however, the added lounge seats and motor options for the 2020 G23 and the "upgraded" stereo for the X24, whatever that's worth, made me reconsider, not to mention we're already so close to the end of the season. If I hadn't heard the 2020 updates when I did, I'd probably had gone with the '19

[Wayward]

That makes sense and they're so close, it will most likely come down to price. I considered going 2019, however, the added lounge seats and motor options for the 2020 G23 and the "upgraded" stereo for the X24, whatever that's worth, made me reconsider, not to mention we're already so close to the end of the season. If I hadn't heard the 2020 updates when I did, I'd probably had gone with the '19

I’d definitely wait for a 2020 on either option. The Gen2 plus with position sensing is a very nice upgrade on the new MCs. I got the new upgraded stereo on my 2020, as well as doing 4 8.5s on the tower. The additional speakers in the boat, bigger tower speakers (when selecting 4), and new DSP program, make a huge difference in the stereo for 2020. The passenger stereo/lighting/heat remote display is a nice addition as well.

[Samu]

That makes sense and they're so close, it will most likely come down to price. I considered going 2019, however, the added lounge seats and motor options for the 2020 G23 and the "upgraded" stereo for the X24, whatever that's worth, made me reconsider, not to mention we're already so close to the end of the season. If I hadn't heard the 2020 updates when I did, I'd probably had gone with the '19

- What are the never used rear seats worth to you?
- Engine, do you really need it fresh water cooled? The H6 as it currently is, it's an awesome engine!
- Surf Select, add a few hundred for the watch vs 50 for a Pebble. How often will you use it? I tell you, much less than you think

Maybe the price difference for a 2019 is more worth compared to the upgrades? In the end, you get every year an update and it's always nice to have the newest thing, but is it worth to spend "that" much for? Very personally decision.

[GMLIII]

I guess I shouldn't complain about having to haul it back and forth to Oklahoma, when it's time to trade-in. Is there any other reason I would need to bring it back to the dealer? If something goes wrong, I just take it to a local dealer, correct? It's not too big of a deal if I have to bring it back for something else, considering I've got family to visit, but not sure what that something else would be.... any insight?

Should not be a problem taking it back to the dealer where you purchased the boat for service or repair, but you may face challenges taking it to another dealership for repair or service even if they carry the brand of boat you own. Example, since you did not purchase the boat at that dealership your repair/service may get pushed behind other boat owners, who purchased thier boat at that dealership.

[fearocks]

- What are the never used rear seats worth to you?
- Engine, do you really need it fresh water cooled? The H6 as it currently is, it's an awesome engine!
- Surf Select, add a few hundred for the watch vs 50 for a Pebble. How often will you use it? I tell you, much less than you think

Maybe the price difference for a 2019 is more worth compared to the upgrades? In the end, you get every year an update and it's always nice to have the newest thing, but is it worth to spend "that" much for? Very personally decision.

You're correct, I guess it really comes down to how much of a price difference I'm actually looking at between a 19' and a '20. How much are we usually talking here?

• I'm sure Surf Select won't get used a lot
• As far as the engine is concerned, I was just thinking of that extra 50 of NA HP; the M235 excelled at pulling power, so I figured it might help fill the gap
• In Oklahoma, the rear seat rule isn't enforced, so those actually get used quite a bit (not the safest thing), however in Austin, where it'll most likely spend most of its time, might be a different story
• I guess there's also supposed to be a stereo upgrade, but it's pretty good, as it is

[fearocks]

I’d definitely wait for a 2020 on either option. The Gen2 plus with position sensing is a very nice upgrade on the new MCs. I got the new upgraded stereo on my 2020, as well as doing 4 8.5s on the tower. The additional speakers in the boat, bigger tower speakers (when selecting 4), and new DSP program, make a huge difference in the stereo for 2020. The passenger stereo/lighting/heat remote display is a nice addition as well.

Nice, that was the biggest concern for me on the X24; the stereo, on the '19's, is almost non-existent unless I want to surf to Andrea Bocelli. I'll have to look into the whole position sensing; didn't know about that. I was told about the passenger stereo, which was something about a screen being on the passenger side, but haven't read a lot of details about it, or seen any pictures... hadn't heard of the heat remote display either.

[GMLIII]

You're correct, I guess it really comes down to how much of a price difference I'm actually looking at between a 19' and a '20. How much are we usually talking here?

• I'm sure Surf Select won't get used a lot
• As far as the engine is concerned, I was just thinking of that extra 50 of NA HP; the M235 excelled at pulling power, so I figured it might help fill the gap
• In Oklahoma, the rear seat rule isn't enforced, so those actually get used quite a bit (not the safest thing), however in Austin, where it'll most likely spend most of its time, might be a different story
• I guess there's also supposed to be a stereo upgrade, but it's pretty good, as it is

My 2 cents . I never surf without my Pebble watch. Love the ability to make changes on the fly from behind the boat . Great feature IMHO

[fearocks]

Should not be a problem taking it back to the dealer where you purchased the boat for service or repair, but you may face challenges taking it to another dealership for repair or service even if they carry the brand of boat you own. Example, since you did not purchase the boat at that dealership your repair/service may get pushed behind other boat owners, who purchased thier boat at that dealership.

Makes sense; didn't think of that.... brings up another question. Do dealers give you loaners while it's in the shop? If the CC goes into the shop, I'm not happy, however they do loan some pretty cool toys during the interim

[Wayward]

Nice, that was the biggest concern for me on the X24; the stereo, on the '19's, is almost non-existent unless I want to surf to Andrea Bocelli. I'll have to look into the whole position sensing; didn't know about that. I was told about the passenger stereo, which was something about a screen being on the passenger side, but haven't read a lot of details about it, or seen any pictures... hadn't heard of the heat remote display either.

For what it is worth, it is very easy to upgrade the Klipsch system. I swapped to a JL VX600i for the tower speakers on my X24, and added a second set of Klipsch 8.5s. It was at least 2x as loud as stock, if not 3x. I had to turn the amp gain down well below optimal, as to avoid pissing people off on the lake.

[GMLIII]

Makes sense; didn't think of that.... brings up another question. Do dealers give you loaners while it's in the shop? If the CC goes into the shop, I'm not happy, however they do loan some pretty cool toys during the interim

My dealer does not give loaner wake boats . Simply too small of a dealer to do this