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  • enzo thecat
    • Aug 2010
    • 221

    • Lake Wawasee among other places

    • 2016 G21

    #1

    A Nautique dealer near muskegon Mi, is dropping Nautique line because...

    So some acquaintances just bought a (non-nautique) I/O boat and dropped it in at our lake. They bought the boat near/in Muskegon Mi. They said the the dealership told them that they are dropping the Nautique line because a wakesurfer died from inhaling exhaust fumes on a NEW Nautique. Before I make them feel like fools for believing such nonsense, I thought I'd ask the braintrust here. has anyone died from fumes from a new Nautique (which has the exhaust in the water)? I feel stupid even asking. My G21 has almost zero detectible fumes. My 2006 Sante had some, but very little.

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    Last edited by enzo thecat; 05-27-2018, 06:34 PM.
    2016 G21 SupeAir.
  • charlesml3
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 2454

    • Lake Gaston, NC

    • 2022 G23

    #2
    No. That's complete and utter horse-****. Most likely they got dropped by Nautique for being a terrible dealer and they're making excuses so they don't look bad.

    -Charles

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    • enzo thecat
      • Aug 2010
      • 221

      • Lake Wawasee among other places

      • 2016 G21

      #3
      Originally posted by charlesml3 View Post
      No. That's complete and utter horse-****. Most likely they got dropped by Nautique for being a terrible dealer and they're making excuses so they don't look bad.

      -Charles
      Thats what I figured but before I went and started busting balls I wanted to be perfectly sure, lest I make an *** out of myself on a technicality.
      Last edited by enzo thecat; 05-27-2018, 06:59 PM.
      2016 G21 SupeAir.

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      • charlesml3
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 2454

        • Lake Gaston, NC

        • 2022 G23

        #4
        We surf my neighbor's 2013 G23 ALL the time and it doesn't even have a surf pipe. Nobody has died. Nobody has even gotten marginally sick. In fact, nobody has ever even complained about it.

        -Charles

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        • Nautiquehunter
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 2080

          • Flowery Branch GA Lake Lanier

          • 2008 210 SANTE 67 Correct Craft Mustang

          #5
          Sounds like BS to me and why would they drop the brand . Its a dangerous sport if you run at the first sign of blood don't sell equipment that can kill if not used properly.

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          • Infinity
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Sep 2017
            • 730

            • Lake Norman - Denver, NC

            • 2014 SV244 w/ ZR409

            #6
            Complete BS. If someone died, it was not from surfing behind boat and smelling fumes. You would have to be in enclosed space for extended period of time to die from CO fumes, especially with the new CATS engines. Worst case that can happen on lake (in open air) would be bad headache, vomiting and nausea.

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            • Tallredrider
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 1026

              • St. George, Utah

              • Red Metal Flake 2016 G23! Malibu 25 LSV 2019 2021 Centurion Ri237

              #7
              I call BS as well. Looks like the story helped sell an I/O and not another surf boat.

              I know of not a single reported death from wakesurfing behind any boat when someone was wearing a life vest. On a side note, I don't know of a PROVEN propeller injury from surfing behind an I/O.

              The deaths that have occurred were from people teak surfing. That is holding on to the platform (with your face about 30 inches from the exhaust pipes) while the boat was moving. And those people passed out from the carbon monoxide, and the 30+ minutes on the bottom of the lake is what actually killed them. Safety Alert: I don't understand the desire to surf without a life vest. There are a million examples of what could knock a person out while surfing (most of them start with Jetskis, and carbon monoxide is another), and what is an injury you would survive suddenly kills you when you sink. Usually the folks without a life vest have videos of throwing beer to each other, only serving to increase the risk of a problem.

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              • charlesml3
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 2454

                • Lake Gaston, NC

                • 2022 G23

                #8
                Well said, Tallredrider. I also haven't been able to confirm a death or injury from surfing an I/O. I know we all agree it's a bad idea and seems like everyone "knows someone who knew a guy who died" but I still can't confirm it. Same with teak surfing. I think that was a short-lived fad that got FAR more press than it deserved. I know a LOT of people that have been in, on and around ski boats for decades and none of them have ever teak surfed.

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                • j2nh
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 628

                  • Spread Eagle Wisconsin


                  #9
                  First, add me to the list of those calling BS. Pretty poor excuse for a dealer to use. Dealer probably couldn't meet the performance standards of Correct Craft and lost their franchise. The fact that they would spout this probably reinforces the reason they lost their dealership.

                  Second.
                  True story. Had a good friend that would come home from work and grab a couple of beers and do a slow cruise around the lakes. Usually out for about an hour. Boat was a MasterCraft Prostar. During his cruises he would take his Golden Retriever along for the ride. The dog liked to jump on the platform during the rides as he never went fast, always an idle cruise. I'm not advocating this just relating the facts. On one particular night he stopped back at his house, ran up and grabbed another beer and left the boat idling at the dock. Came down continued the cruise and returned home at dusk. You guessed it, at some point he realized the dog was gone. We, myself included, searched all the lakes the next day looking for him but never did find him. He did turn up days later when he floated back up to the surface under his dock. We surmised that the dog had been overcome by CO2 at the dock while on the platform, fell into the water and drowned. Under unusual circumstances, no wind, boat not moving, I can see where CO2 fumes could eventually be a problem. That is a long way however from a person being overcome while surfing, entering or exiting the boat while it was idling, or even standing on the platform for a period of time while Standing on the platform with the engine on. With a tiny bit of common sense CO2 would never be an issue and certainly not with the submerged exhaust on newer Nautiques.

                  2018 200 Team H6
                  2009 196 Team ZR 409
                  2005 196 Limited ZR 375
                  2003 196 Limited Excalibur
                  1999 196 Masters Edition
                  1995 ProStar 190 LT1 (Bayliner)
                  1987 ProStar 190

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                  • Blamey
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Sep 2015
                    • 595

                    • New York

                    • 2009 SANTE 230 1996 Super Sport

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Infinity View Post
                    Complete BS. If someone died, it was not from surfing behind boat and smelling fumes. You would have to be in enclosed space for extended period of time to die from CO fumes, especially with the new CATS engines. Worst case that can happen on lake (in open air) would be bad headache, vomiting and nausea.
                    People have died from CO2 poisoning by just hanging out on the platform. They pass out, fall into the water and drown.

                    That's why the plaforms are now sealed. I am sure the FAE exhaust helps too.

                    Don't hangout in the back of the boat with the engine running. If you do, at the very least wear a life jacket.




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                    • lucky7t
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1306

                      • Oklahoma

                      • 2015 SANTE

                      #11
                      Put me on the list thinking thatÂ’ is bull $#*@ as well.

                      This dealer will more than likely get a call from Nautique IÂ’m guessing . This is serious slander .




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                      [URL="http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/05/1e6128564805861d2625d7b7f8efd2f1.jpg"]2015 SANTE 210[/URL]

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                      [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/attachment.php?attachmentid=17771&d=1340117700"]2012 SANTE 210 (Boatmate Trailer)[/URL]
                      [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/attachment.php?attachmentid=14107&d=1313460568"]2003 SANTE 210 (Dorsey Trailer)[/URL]
                      [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/attachment.php?attachmentid=14108&d=1313461675"]2007 SANTE 210 (Magnum Trailer)[/URL]

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                      • scottb7
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 2198

                        • Carson City, Nevada

                        • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

                        #12
                        Too bad there is no way to know what really happened to cause them and Nautique to part company.

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                        • charlesml3
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 2454

                          • Lake Gaston, NC

                          • 2022 G23

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Blamey View Post
                          People have died from CO2 poisoning by just hanging out on the platform. They pass out, fall into the water and drown.

                          That's why the plaforms are now sealed. I am sure the FAE exhaust helps too.
                          Please cite a reference for this.

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                          • Evening Shade
                            1,000 Post Club Member
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 1295

                            • Martinez, GA/Lake Greenwood, SC

                            • 2017 GS20 Previous: 2011 SAN 210, 2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

                            #14
                            Is it a MarineMax in Muskegon that's losing Nautique? Just curious because the MarineMax locations in Columbia, SC and Buford, GA are both losing Nautique.
                            2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23 LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

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                            • Bevostein
                              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 523

                              • Frisco, TX

                              • 2021 G23 2019 G23 (Sold) 2013 G25 550XR (Sold) 2009 216V (Sold)

                              #15
                              Originally posted by charlesml3 View Post

                              Please cite a reference for this.
                              http://www.wtxl.com/news/surprising-...01ef4156d.html

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