GS20 Surf Settings?

[Evening Shade]

I've been playing around with the surf settings and ballast on my GS20, but I can't seem to get the wave to have enough push for me to surf without the rope. I'm 6' tall, 180#, and my board is a Hyperlite Shim 5'3".

Any suggestions would be great.

TIA

[ScooterMcgavin]

See if you can demo a little bigger more buoyant board to learn on. Keep your shim till you get the hang of it. Post a video of your wave and riding possibly, let's see what your working with. How deep is the lake your riding in? Lots of variables to it, but with a gs20 and the right board you should be good to go with practice. You gotta get the feel for the wave. Lots of good info here
https://youtu.be/sQVayRd4VVw

[Evening Shade]

See if you can demo a little bigger more buoyant board to learn on. Keep your shim till you get the hang of it. Post a video of your wave and riding possibly, let's see what your working with. How deep is the lake your riding in? Lots of variables to it, but with a gs20 and the right board you should be good to go with practice. You gotta get the feel for the wave. Lots of good info here
https://youtu.be/sQVayRd4VVw

Thanks. I will have to look into a demoing a board. Not many places near me that sell surf boards, much less that have demos.

Usually in 20-30 feet of water.

[ScooterMcgavin]

Your definitely in deep enough water and I believe you could go rope less on that shim with some practice and the proper foot placement. I know what your saying about demo wakesurf boards... Not all shops do this. Have you tried moving up on the board a little? Do you ever feel slack in the rope when your up ? Is the wave clean with a nice lip or is it more mushy with white water? Pics would help

[Evening Shade]

Your definitely in deep enough water and I believe you could go rope less on that shim with some practice and the proper foot placement. I know what your saying about demo wakesurf boards... Not all shops do this. Have you tried moving up on the board a little? Do you ever feel slack in the rope when your up ? Is the wave clean with a nice lip or is it more mushy with white water? Pics would help

I think I probably am staying too far back on the board after watching the Liquid Force video.

The wave cleans up and has a pretty nice lip, but the usable part of the wave is small and easy to get out of the sweet spot. I can feel some slack in the rope at times, but its for just a second.

I don't have my extra sacks in the boat right now, but it did have more push with them.

I will try to post some pics this weekend.

[whitecaps]

Phase 5 Ahi Tuna is a great board and we have no trouble staying on the wave behind our stock ballast GS22. Board makes a HUGE difference.

[lucky7t]

I think I probably am staying too far back on the board after watching the Liquid Force video.

The wave cleans up and has a pretty nice lip, but the usable part of the wave is small and easy to get out of the sweet spot. I can feel some slack in the rope at times, but its for just a second.

I don't have my extra sacks in the boat right now, but it did have more push with them.

I will try to post some pics this weekend.

Ok so here’s my tips .
1. Lean into the wave . Most people think you just stand there and really you need to lean or push that board into the wave.
2. Leaning towards boat faster . Leaning back slower
3. Wiggle your feet around with rope in hand . Don’t try to rope less until your completely comfortable
4.all the above movements need to be in moderation . In other words slow. Don’t make sudden moves .

Now on step 2 you may need to position your forward foot closer to the edge closest to the wake . When I teach people I always tell them to wiggle your forward foot closer to the edge towards the wave .

Hope I helped .


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[Evening Shade]

Ok so here’s my tips .
1. Lean into the wave . Most people think you just stand there and really you need to lean or push that board into the wave.
2. Leaning towards boat faster . Leaning back slower
3. Wiggle your feet around with rope in hand . Don’t try to rope less until your completely comfortable
4.all the above movements need to be in moderation . In other words slow. Don’t make sudden moves .

Now on step 2 you may need to position your forward foot closer to the edge closest to the wake . When I teach people I always tell them to wiggle your forward foot closer to the edge towards the wave .

Hope I helped .


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Lucky,

Thanks for the tips. I will give them a try and if I'm still struggling I will give you a call.

[kylant]

perfect timing. yesterday was the first day surfing our GS20. we were trying to figure this out as well. I know I need a new board. I was riding an old Broadcast 5'4", my buddy has a Liquid Force Fish.
We had 2 adults in the boat. full ballast, NCRS 5, NSS 0, 11.2mph, 20-30ft water. Surfing starboard side. Wave seemed good. noticed less push with NCRS at 3. We both had a tough time staying in the pocket. my buddy tried 75% in the port tank and he said it was better.

2 questions:
What is the go to board for beginner/surf style? (215lbs) was eyeing the Shim
What are good boat settings?

[Evening Shade]

Hey guys I was supposed to get some pics of my surf wave this past weekend, but the kids were having so much fun wakeboarding that we ran out of time and never surfed. Hopefully can get some pics this weekend.

In the mean time, I'm curious what boards are recommended for going ropeless with a smaller wave? I know one person mentioned the Phase 5 Ahi Tuna. Any other recommendations?

[GMLIII]

Hey guys I was supposed to get some pics of my surf wave this past weekend, but the kids were having so much fun wakeboarding that we ran out of time and never surfed. Hopefully can get some pics this weekend.

In the mean time, I'm curious what boards are recommended for going ropeless with a smaller wave? I know one person mentioned the Phase % Ahi Tuna. Any other recommendations?

We have a Phase 5 Ahi and it is a good and very easy board to use for a variety of folks having different skiill levels. Easy to go ropeless with this board on a small wave vs some of the other boards I have such as Soulcraft JW or Liquid Force Austin Keen which are bit more advance.

[lucky7t]

Hey guys I was supposed to get some pics of my surf wave this past weekend, but the kids were having so much fun wakeboarding that we ran out of time and never surfed. Hopefully can get some pics this weekend.

In the mean time, I'm curious what boards are recommended for going ropeless with a smaller wave? I know one person mentioned the Phase 5 Ahi Tuna. Any other recommendations?

If you can find a good used inland surfer sweet spot this would do the trick . I surfed that board behind an OG 210 with one fat sac. Great board and great to learn on


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[Evening Shade]

If you can find a good used inland surfer sweet spot this would do the trick . I surfed that board behind an OG 210 with one fat sac. Great board and great to learn on


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Thanks for the rec. I would like to find a used board as I'm not yet sold on the surfing thing so don't want to put a bunch of money into more boards.

[kylant]

been trying to dial in surf settings.

can someone confirm what the NSS and NCRS settings do? The answers are all over the place.
I am pretty sure the NSS controls the steepness of the the wave. 5 being mellow, 0 being the steepest.

NCRS controls how the stern sits in the water?
5 makes the stern sit lowest and makes the wave biggest?
0 makes stern higher, bow lower, smaller and longer wave?

Can someone please clarify?

We have found NSS 0 and NCRS 5 make wave steepest and shortest.
Trying to get the wave longer with the most push. 3/3 seemed pretty good this am. (full ballast)

[MikeC]

been trying to dial in surf settings.

can someone confirm what the NSS and NCRS settings do? The answers are all over the place.
I am pretty sure the NSS controls the steepness of the the wave. 5 being mellow, 0 being the steepest.

NCRS controls how the stern sits in the water?
5 makes the stern sit lowest and makes the wave biggest?
0 makes stern higher, bow lower, smaller and longer wave?

Can someone please clarify?

We have found NSS 0 and NCRS 5 make wave steepest and shortest.
Trying to get the wave longer with the most push. 3/3 seemed pretty good this am. (full ballast)

From the LINC Panoray manual:
NSS Setting - used to adjust steepness. 5 is associated with the most vert wakesurf wave, and is also the most likely to be “washy” due to how steep the wave is. Having an NSS setting of 0 would create the mellowest or most ramp-like wakesurf wave, which would also create the “cleanest” wakesurf wave. The factory NSS setting has been set to 0 because with factory ballast, this creates the best all-around wave for the user.

NCRS Setting - used to control steepness and can be used in conjunction with NSS setting. As with NSS, having an NCRS setting of 5 would create the steepest wakesurf wave. An NCRS setting of 0 would create the most ramp-like wave. Unlike NSS, an NCRS setting of 5 tends to create the cleanest wave and having a NCRS setting of 0 tends to create a wave more likely to “wash out”.