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My wave sucks. I have everything I need, just can't get the wave long and not so steep. Currently I have 500 lbs lead wake in the nose. Surf at 11.4-11.9 mph with nss always fully deployed (forget it thats 0 or 5 setting) and nrcs plate at 0-1 trying to keep the nose down and wave long. I keep about 400 lbs in the extra ballast bag that is in port side rear locker all the time. Then fill the factory ballast full. Even at 12 mph the wave steep and not long. I usually end up removing ballast from both factory rear bags to about 25% and wave gets longer. Works great for the kids and smaller riders, they can get pretty far back. I just want a longer wave thats not so perpendicular to the boat. Any suggestions?
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I think that 500lbs of lead is to much for the nose, try 250 there and move the other 250 to port side under rear seat, don't fill that sac in rear compartment yet.. Run all factory ballast full, and bring the NSS plate in to about 3. Try 3 and 3 on both 11.5 mph next time out. What is your water depth?2009 Super Air Nautique 210 TE
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In my G23 2017 my set up is
speed 11.5 mph
all stock ballast filled
200 lbs shot bags in bow
250 lbs shot under port side observer seat
150 lb behind driver seat
150 lbs behind port side observer seat
NSS 0
NCRS 4
wave is not steep and pretty long . I’m 195 lbs and can go back in the pocket pretty good
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Is everyones ncrs plate/ actuator mounted with the center hole? I have tried all three position and have not seen any difference.2016 G23Comment
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Never adjusted mine . No change since boat purchaseOriginally posted by Whitetail15 View PostComment
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I think that it is the nature of this boat to create a steep wave. I think it is plenty long, but pictures lead me to believe that some other boats are longer. I go 12 MPH and do not have all that extra weight you do. I will be with a weeklong trip soon and will have 12 sacks of voice activated ballast to play with, so it will be interesting to see what I can come up with.
When I test drove a Malibu in 2015, I thought this flat wave was so un-fun. I could not tell where the trough was and where the peak was. It may not have been set up properly, but I think the principle is still true that Surfgate waves are flat compared to a G23 wave.Comment
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For longer wave I run factory ballast full, 12 mph, and both settings at 0. Makes a good difference for the wife and kids that like a mellow and long wave.
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I know this is true for a 210. ...too much weight you sink the plates too much and nss is not as effective. Just food for thought. I know a G will take a lot more weight.
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I would be interested in more member input on this subject. I am new here. I own a 2013 Malibu 23LSV, looking to upgrade this year. I have demo'd a few boats this season, the 25' Centurion, several Malibus, and now the G23.
I was really hoping to be blown away by the G wave but that didn't happen. The G is a superior boat to be sure, but my 5 year old Malibu puts out a superior wave in every respect. It is longer, taller, cleaner, has more surface area, more push. Of course, I rode the G with stock ballast, whereas my LSV is fully loaded. So I would like to hear from more G owners. What are you doing for wake enhancement? And how does each adjustment affect the wave? Pics would be nice!Comment
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I use full stock ballast on my G then to enhance wave I gave 200 lbs of shot bags in bow, 250 lbs shot bags under port side observer seat , 150 lbs of shot bags behind starboard driver seat and 150 lbs if shot bags behind portside observer seat. NCRS at 4, NSS setting at 1 , 11.5 mph .With this set up it makes for a nice long clean wave regardless of passenger count in boatOriginally posted by SM View PostLast edited by GMLIII; 07-02-2018, 11:38 AM.Comment
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100% the same issue on the G. and the new hulls 16+ require even less weight.Originally posted by bandit628 View Post
If your wave is super steep i'm going to guess your NSS is at 5, go to 0 and it will mellow right out. Its a HUGE difference!
Honestly the G are finicky to weight, I was shocked how much difference 150lbs can make. Weighted right mine throws an incredible wave. (13)
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From my experience in my 16 and 17...... do not add weight on the surf side in the back of the boat. I tried that, and it ruined the wave. It was tall, steep, and short....
Just run stock ballast, plus 200-250 of lead under the observer seat to balance. If you want to add weight, add it in the middle of the boat only, under the front half of the coffin seats, and add it evenly on both sides. Run at 11.5-12mph with NSS at 0, and NCRS at 3-4.
My standard setup was- stock ballast, 200 lead under observer, 100 lead in the bow, 200 lead under each coffin seat, 11.8mph NSS-0, NCRS 4.
it was still steep, but the G is always steep compared to most other waves. But this setup was nice and long, and super clean. Avoid overweighting the surf side in a 16+G, it makes the wave much steeper and shorter.Comment
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As Wayward stated , I would not put shot bags in far back of boat at stern; I experienced same problem. Mid-boat and bow onlyOriginally posted by SM View Post
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I owned a 2013 LSV last year with 750’s and a 650 bow bag. I couldn’t disagree more. That boat’s wave, while respectable, isn’t even close to my 2017 G23. My wave is now longer, taller, more push, cleaner, etc. It’s just better in every way. And the ability to tune is endless. And having the pebble to mess with it makes it so easy to find your favourite wave. Not to mention the boat itself is significantly better. I used to feel like my Malibu was going to blow apart in chop and now I just smash through and barely notice a rattle. Ten times more solid construction.Originally posted by SM View Post
To the OP, 0 is more mellow and 5 is steeper. This goes for both NSS and NCRS. Here’s my setup to get long and strong:
I have 400 lbs of lead in the midship
NSS 0
NCRS 0
Starboard 50%
Port 50%
Belly 70%
Speed 11.5
Give that a go. It’s a long and fun wave for kids. Even my wife prefers it. For myself I run:
NSS 0
NCRS 3 or 4
Full ballast
Speed 12.0
It rocks.
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Thanks all for your input. It seems counterintuitive, but you're the ones with experience.
Thejean, I run mine with 1,000 lbs more than that and 3/4 wedge, 12.4 mph. The G I demo'd was set up about as you describe, also at 12 mph. I struggled to ride. But the reason I'm here is I want to believe! Keep it coming.
I would love if you folks could snap a few photos next time out. I want to see that wave! You show me yours, I'll show you mine.
Blueroom, that's a great shot! https://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/f...-varial-boards
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