Looking at 210s and have motor question

[idahosan]

We are looking at downsizing from our LSV to a smaller boat. Is the 343 with upgraded prop enough motor to surf at 5000'? Also, would it be possible for a '16 210 to have a 343? We are looking in the '13 to '17 year range and any info and help would be appreciated. I love our bu but have had Nautiques in the past. Looking at 210 vs VLX

[cedarcreek216]

We had the 343 in our last 210 and had zero problems, close to sea level though. We had close to 3000 pounds of ballast and had at any given time 8-9 adults on board. Only time it breathed a bit hard was when someone wanted to get all that weight up to wakeboard speed. Not sure what the elevation would do to you, but I would think you would be just fine. And yes, the 343 was base engine until 2018 I believe.


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[surfnjosh]

Get a 14+ and a 409. The 14+ has deeper freeboard and the Seadeck. 409 will be all the motor you ever need.

[esse77]

We currently have a 15 210 with the 343 and it’s a great motor at low elevation to surf with but struggles to get up onto plane while trying to wakeboard when you have full ballast and 7-10 people on board. If we were to trade in for another 210 though we would definitely opt for either the 409 or 450 to help get the extra push that’s needed.

[lucky7t]

343 stock prop . Great combo . Ours is a 15 model .


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[idahosan]

Thank you for the replies and info. We usually have 3 - 6 people and mainly surf. We do wakeboard but not with a lot of ballast. We are looking at downsizing to get the boat in our garage and honestly we just don’t need the space of our 23’. 90% of our time is spent at a family cabin with a dock. Downside is the lake is 5000’ ele. We rec slalom as well and it seems the 210 has a better wake at speed compared to our LSV. I haven’t had a chance to test that yet.

[jondavis08]

Get a Acme 1617 and the 353 can handle it with ease. I slam my boat(825 in each locker and 500 plumbed in the bow) and often have a large crew. With a stock prop it takes for ever to plane off. The 1617 was the best upgrade we did. I also rec ski all the time and it’s good enough for me. Belly full 34mph. Have a 14 210 FYI


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[swatguy]

I run the 1617 , have 343. Have some experience with running boats at elevations. 409 all the way. Normally I would say the 343 is plenty , but prop diameter is the limiter here not the engine.

IMO you need the 409 for elevation

[kylant]

if you are at 5000 ft elevation, get the biggest motor you can and prop accordingly. Talking different boats here, but my GS20 has the ZR4, and I wish I had at least the H5 if not the H6. I am 6300 ft. The boat struggles when weighted down with just factory ballast. And I have it propped probably as good as I can get it (tried 3 different props, extensive discussions with ACME). So my answer for altitude is displacement!!

[MTRBTR]

I have a buddy that had an ‘11 210. We live in MT at about 4500. He had the 343 with stock prop. No issues surfing with extra ballast or slalom. You will be fine. This whole elevation difference isn’t as much as everyone thinks it is.

[Infinity]

I would get the 409 if you can if you are 5000ft, while torque numbers are similar to the 343....its does pull better in my experience and with the right prop you should be ok. H5 is very similar numbers to the 409 as well, H6 will get you a nice upgrade tho. If you can get it, I think it would be worth it that high up since resale will be better/easier.

I am at 800ft elevation....have the ZR409 in my 24ft boat and run 5k of ballast with 1433 or 1847 prop and it will handle anything, if it were at 5000ft, I would say it would struggle with all that weight.....but its a bigger boat with more ballast than 210, so my assumption would be that you will be ok. Personally I would call some of the local dealers and see what engine they are ordering 210 boats with and maybe even test drive one of the newer ones to know for sure. You can do a lot with a prop tho if you do not care about top end. If you rec slalom, you will almost certainly want 2 props no matter what boat you get unless you get a 450 engine.

[idahosan]

Talked to our dealer a couple of days ago and it seems that the 343 does ok for surfing @5000’ but wake boarding with ballast can be a struggle. They are the same dealer we bought our Axis and Bu LSV from. Looking for 210s has been like trying to find a unicorn. Our dealer hasn’t ordered one for a couple of years and I’m going to have a heck of a time finding one to demo. Sales manager is going to reach out to a couple owners for me. Anyone around boise/McCall area want some gas money for a demo?

Wife asked about used G21 as an option. Not really concerned about wakeboard wake but how does surf wake compare to 210? I believe our dealer has a G21 coming and we will setup a surf demo. Also looking at doing a demo on a Bu 21vlx and 22vlx.

[beamons]

I have the 343 and run at near that elevation a lot. It does struggle a little but not enough to compromise a lot because of it. Surfing will not be your issue when it comes to power however. Like a few people said it will be the amount of ballast and number of people. Even then it gets out and does the job, just a little sluggishly.

If you are trying to get the unicorn, good luck but I would stay with the 210 or maybe look at the GS's. I keep hearing great things about their versatility.

[lucky7t]

Take a flight to Oklahoma . We will take you out here in a 210 with a 343. Wouldn’t help test elevation though


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[nautiquegeek]

Get a 14+ and a 409. The 14+ has deeper freeboard and the Seadeck. 409 will be all the motor you ever need.

This ^^^.

The 210 uses a pretty efficient hull (planing not displacement like a GS or G Series boats). I run 210s and 230s at over 6000 ft with no issues even loaded up with just the ZR4. The GS (even the 20 footer) on the other hand needs a minimum of the H5 or H6 IMHO. The GS20 with a ZR4 at elevations over 4000 feet is lackluster to say the least.

The 343 was a good engine however, not enough for poking huge holes in the water if that is your goal.

Good luck!