As long as you are being friendly, have a good attitude, and are explaining why people need to be moved around, they shouldnt have much of an issue with it. If you moving people around to make the wake better is taking the fun out of someones day, leave them at the dock.
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Originally posted by wakerider107 View PostAs long as you are being friendly, have a good attitude, and are explaining why people need to be moved around, they shouldnt have much of an issue with it. If you moving people around to make the wake better is taking the fun out of someones day, leave them at the dock.
In general I think that is accurate. And most importantly your suggestion is probably the most healthy and positive attitude one could take...and you are probably an extrovert...(read on)..
I, unfortunately am kind of an ocd, oversensitive, over-analyzing type. And I am mostly an introvert. So I tend to think, gosh I better not say anything cause I might offend someone. Then I just get irritated, more and more...Why because people can't read my mind. Shame on them...
But success of your suggestion kind of depends how much of a dumbass the person(s) are. So in many cases I have taken on your suggestion - believe me many have suggested I be more direct - and said something like when showing someone how to drive: you know it is better for the rider to not jerk them out of the water and over rev the motor. Or driving in a straight line is better then long curves so the person has a better line to jump, or hey I really need you to text ask before you just show up with an extra person, kid who wants to learn to wakeboard, or dog expecting to go in the boat, or you gotta learn to drive so I can actually take a turn...
And some of these dumbass people are like yeah sure ok, and go right back to repeating what I told them not to do.
And they are perfectly decent human beings, but not gonna make it on my crew as either an occasional guest or a regular.
So my point is yeah your right, but it is not always gonna work.
In general, I don't believe - like some people do - that the approach and how you craft a message determines the outcome. Not saying that one should not approach people with a polite message. But, I think the outcome is more about ability of people to adjust how they basically take in and adjust to new information.
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Originally posted by scottb7 View Post
I have been reflecting on the above for a while now as I was unsure what exactly I wanted to communicate...
In general I think that is accurate. And most importantly your suggestion is probably the most healthy and positive attitude one could take...and you are probably an extrovert...(read on)..
I, unfortunately am kind of an ocd, oversensitive, over-analyzing type. And I am mostly an introvert. So I tend to think, gosh I better not say anything cause I might offend someone. Then I just get irritated, more and more...Why because people can't read my mind. Shame on them...
But success of your suggestion kind of depends how much of a dumbass the person(s) are. So in many cases I have taken on your suggestion - believe me many have suggested I be more direct - and said something like when showing someone how to drive: you know it is better for the rider to not jerk them out of the water and over rev the motor. Or driving in a straight line is better then long curves so the person has a better line to jump, or hey I really need you to text ask before you just show up with an extra person, kid who wants to learn to wakeboard, or dog expecting to go in the boat, or you gotta learn to drive so I can actually take a turn...
And some of these dumbass people are like yeah sure ok, and go right back to repeating what I told them not to do.
And they are perfectly decent human beings, but not gonna make it on my crew as either an occasional guest or a regular.
So my point is yeah your right, but it is not always gonna work.
In general, I don't believe - like some people do - that the approach and how you craft a message determines the outcome. Not saying that one should not approach people with a polite message. But, I think the outcome is more about ability of people to adjust how they basically take in and adjust to new information.
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I’m not too anal when surfing but when wakeboarding I will move people around and play with the wake. Some people may find that annoying but I don’t care. Usually wakeboarding is with serious like minded people anyway. Surfing is more of a friends and family activity.
As for the rules, I like the idea of a pre-ride rundown with newbies. Have never done that before. I might actually write up a list and text it to people before they even come so they don’t show up with banned substances or start out on the wrong foot and we need to get into an embarrassing conversation on the dock.
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As for writing up a list. I created the below. (I predict this will move us to a whole new discussion.)
But below is for REGULARS....Some items might cross over to guests...some might not, it is kind of to you and what you have to loan and how long you want to loan it, etc. Lots of variables
Boat Regulars’ Etiquette
It is understandable that everyone has a different experience and knowledge level. So if you have questions, be sure to ask.- Have your own equipment
- Board/bindings/wetsuit/dry suit/life jacket
- Reminder, you’re using plenty of boat owners items-rope, handle, pumps, etc.
- Come on time, help during the session, and expect to stay after
- Carry gas cans to the boat
- Help fill/empty ballast sacks, put boards on racks, etc.
- At end of session wipe down boat - use your own towel if one is not provided
- Money
- $10 / for each 15 minute set (remember you are pretty much just covering gas)
- Reminder, you’re not paying for the boat, maintenance, off-season storage, insurance, property taxes/boat slip
- Taking care of the boat
- Remove shoes (hint: bring slippers in cold weather)
- Don’t throw or drag your equipment on the vinyl; avoid stepping on vinyl if possible
- If you break something, expect to pay to fix it (i.e. you poke a hole/scratch the vinyl)
- No dark color beverages that could stain, or any food that has crumbs, or is messy
- Clean up after yourself, and take your own trash off the boat
- YOU are the boat owners’ guest and should ask before bringing your friends, kids, family, or pets
- Boat Driving
- Expect that you will take a turn driving; this is not a taxi cab or Uber experience
- When you drive the boat, do not power turn back to the rider
- Drive as straight of lines as possible to maximize rider trick opportunities
- Do not gun the motor at any time, including pulling up the rider
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Well I have to say I’m a bit picky with passengers .
A few examples are no cheese chips with orange powder (Cheetos , Doritos , etc..), no pop on boat , if you move while the boat is moving you will be told to sit down .
I’m very chill though . But I set the rules prior to even getting on the boat
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Originally posted by scottb7 View PostI was just reading a magazine today and it had the below referenced. I thought it was interesting that it said no friend requests. I often thought about telling people that they should not ask to bring someone else. But I was on the fence on it.
Great post! I wish everyone would read that article before getting on a boat!
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When you start worrying about people dripping off on the swim platform before getting in the boat, you have crossed a line into anal retentiveness that makes you a serious funkiller. You could make diamonds out of coal that way, your butt is so tight. Your boat can get wet, both inside and out. I've been called a boat nazi, but never about drying off before getting in the boat.
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Originally posted by Tallredrider View PostWhen you start worrying about people dripping off on the swim platform before getting in the boat, you have crossed a line into anal retentiveness that makes you a serious funkiller. You could make diamonds out of coal that way, your butt is so tight. Your boat can get wet, both inside and out. I've been called a boat nazi, but never about drying off before getting in the boat.
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