Gs 22 surf wave

[Ringer35]

Any one else not totally impressed the the the surf wave of the gs22 ? I know there cross over boats but still
Love how the boat drives and handles
Don’t like the steep lip half way up the surf wave lots in my group would rather surf a axis wave than mine gs22 wave very frustrating to me anybody have any ideas I tried everything


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[idahosan]

My dealer has been adding 250 bags to the rear lockers for demos. Of course they started doing this after I demoed one LOL. Have you tried adding weight? Pro ballast will be an option for '19 and that tells me it needs it.

[Ringer35]

I have 400 lbs of lead in the boat
Have had 2 to 10 people in the boat the lip is still there


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[idahosan]

Where do you have the lead located? I was actually talking to my dealer today about the gs22 and the pro ballast option. He has had the best luck with 500 to 700 in the rear lockers and no extra bow ballast. He said anymore than that and you have to add bow weight to compensate. I am going to talk with them again monday, to set up some demos and will ask what settings they use. I didn't notice the lip when I surfed it with stock ballast. I do think they were only running the belly tank half full for our demo though.

[Ringer35]

I have most of it in the rear and just a bit in the middle of the boat on port side to off set driver weight I was only running from 0- 30% in front too


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[BigAirBearWake]

I had the same lip in my gs24 wave. I found that if I run belly at 50% the rear at 80-90/100 to your side that you are surfing, NSS at 5 and NCRS at 5. Running at 10.8.

This actually pushed the lip into the rooster tail. It was a very steep but solid wall. I bumped the NCRS to 2-4 to gain elongate it or speed up to 11.2-11.5.

[Ringer35]

I had the same lip in my gs24 wave. I found that if I run belly at 50% the rear at 80-90/100 to your side that you are surfing, NSS at 5 and NCRS at 5. Running at 10.8.

This actually pushed the lip into the rooster tail. It was a very steep but solid wall. I bumped the NCRS to 2-4 to gain elongate it or speed up to 11.2-11.5.

You ran nss at 5 so that’s the least setting on that correct ?



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[BigAirBearWake]

Yes, correct.

[F725]

I've heard that adding more weight to the opposite surf side helps that lip fade. Not completely. My buddy has one... I've never surfed it but he adds 400 lbs in each rear locker, 200 extra in the bow and another 200 lbs of lead in the bow. Seems like pro ballast add on is needed for sure.

I demoed one last year and did not like the lip in the middle of the wave. My buddy said his is still there and he's grown to love it because it makes it easy to Ollie off of it. Maybe I'll go ride behind his boat next week and see what I think.

[idahosan]

did a proper demo on the same gs22 today. Tried to make the lip disappear. We ran stock ballast full with 250 bags in the locker, 3 adults and 1 80lb kid in the boat with 1 adult surfing. Speed was between 11.0 and 11.2 mph. We couldn't get the lip to completely disappear but it seemed that the lower the ncrs setting the better it was? I do think this boat needs at least 350s in the locker with a small crew.

[Dinsdale]

[QUOTE=Ringer35;n566165]

You ran nss at 5 so that’s the least setting on that correct?



NSS Setting - used to adjust steepness. 5 is associated with the most
vert wakesurf wave, and is also the most likely to be “washy” due to how steep the wave is. Having an NSS setting of 0 would create the mellowest or most ramp-like wakesurf wave, which would also create the “cleanest” wakesurf wave.

[kylant]

[QUOTE=Dinsdale;n567331]

You ran nss at 5 so that’s the least setting on that correct?



NSS Setting - used to adjust steepness. 5 is associated with the most
vert wakesurf wave, and is also the most likely to be “washy” due to how steep the wave is. Having an NSS setting of 0 would create the mellowest or most ramp-like wakesurf wave, which would also create the “cleanest” wakesurf wave.

Doug,
Isn't it just the opposite? NSS 0 is the steepest, 5 is more mellow.
NCRS 5 is steepest because the plate is in the full up position allowing the stern to sink into the water more. 0 is most mellow. plate is fully down keeping stern higher in the water.


I think the key on the GS will be the pro ballast, maybe even bigger bags then fine tuning from there. With my 20, I cant add any more weight because I don't have enough motor to push it at the altitude I am at. Hence the reason for getting a new boat with the H6!

[Dinsdale]

[QUOTE=kylant;n567382]

Doug,
Isn't it just the opposite? NSS 0 is the steepest, 5 is more mellow.
NCRS 5 is steepest because the plate is in the full up position allowing the stern to sink into the water more. 0 is most mellow. plate is fully down keeping stern higher in the water.


I think the key on the GS will be the pro ballast, maybe even bigger bags then fine tuning from there. With my 20, I cant add any more weight because I don't have enough motor to push it at the altitude I am at. Hence the reason for getting a new boat with the H6!

Kyle,
The quote is from the manual. You are correct about the NCRS. The lower the number the further the plate is extended causing the boat to ride flatter and reducing the size of the wave. With the NSS the higher number means the side plates are more extended which causes the boat to “crab” more. This creates a bigger wake but it tends to get washy. 5 and 5 should create the biggest wake but it’s not likely to be clean enough to surf very well. And very short.

I think you’re right about the pro ballast and H6 solution for next year. We are only at 1100 ft so the ZR4 works great.