Need help with 2018 g23 surf wave

[Nick531]

We go to San Vicente Reservoir in lakeside California an do trips to Parker an Lake Havasu. The water at San Vicente ranges from 100ft to 250ft deep. Went out yesterday. Picked up a 4’8 Ronix pot belly rocket. Great board but still couldn’t get a decent pocket length on the wave. Wednesday my dealer is going to bring his 2019 G to the lake. We’re going to weight my boat an his the same and surf them both. I think I just need someone experienced with these boats to get wave dialed. Or maybe there is something not working properly with the boat. Once again I really appreciate all your help an will update Wednesday on how it went.

[sixcampbells]

Man this is a head scratcher. You can hardly get a wave with lots of push right out of the box with stock settings- I surf 11.7mph, NSS 0, NCRS 2-3. Sometimes I will keep rears at 90% and bow at 100% just for a longer wave for skim board OR pick speed up to 12.0. I can surf anywhere in that wave without needing to pump much at all. Weird


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[sixcampbells]

without a lot of push I meant!


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[GMLIII]

Man this is a head scratcher. You can hardly get a wave with lots of push right out of the box with stock settings- I surf 11.7mph, NSS 0, NCRS 2-3. Sometimes I will keep rears at 90% and bow at 100% just for a longer wave for skim board OR pick speed up to 12.0. I can surf anywhere in that wave without needing to pump much at all. Weird


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Agreed . 11.7 mph is my preferred speed for surf style boarding at 100% ballast . For Skim I have been running 100 % in Belly and 75% in rear ballasts at 12 mph to make the wave even longer

[tke104]

Might sound stupid, but check that your prop is clean. I've had issues when I get weeds on the prop and it throws everything off. Couldn't figure out my buddies wave one day and it turned out there was a short rope wrapped around the prop.

[WakeDad]

I'm stumped. Boat forms a wave so NSS is working. NCRS plate changes wave so that's working. Water is deep enough. Only thing I have left is are we sure ballast is actually filling completely? It should be peeing out of all overflow/vent holes before pumps shut off. Actually, I have one more thought. You don't see a river mode tab displayed on the bottom left of your home screen do you?

[GMLIII]

I'm stumped. Boat forms a wave so NSS is working. NCRS plate changes wave so that's working. Water is deep enough. Only thing I have left is are we sure ballast is actually filling completely? It should be peeing out of all overflow/vent holes before pumps shut off. Actually, I have one more thought. You don't see a river mode tab displayed on the bottom left of your home screen do you?

My ballasts start peeping out the overflow when the ballast tanks are about 50% full and continue peeing until the ballast arr 100% and pumps shut off, River mode should not effect you wave shape for the problem you are dealing with. To be honest with you, I think you just need more time behind the helm of your boat. It took be about 2 months before I dialed in my wave perfect and understood all the surf setting

[Tallredrider]

My ballasts start peeping out the overflow when the ballast tanks are about 50% full and continue peeing until the ballast arr 100% and pumps shut off, River mode should not effect you wave shape for the problem you are dealing with. To be honest with you, I think you just need more time behind the helm of your boat. It took be about 2 months before I dialed in my wave perfect and understood all the surf setting

Interesting...mine don't pee over the side until absolutely full.

Peeing at 50% should be physically impossible with the overflow on the top of the bag. Something doesn't sound right. so you are saying it drains a little bit over the side from 50-100% full, then drains a lot once at 100% full?

[GMLIII]

Interesting...mine don't pee over the side until absolutely full.

Peeing at 50% should be physically impossible with the overflow on the top of the bag. Something doesn't sound right. so you are saying it drains a little bit over the side from 50-100% full, then drains a lot once at 100% full?

Yeah you are correct. Peeps from 50% until full through the drain on side of boat. Im getting it looked at in the off season under warranty. When I bought the boat it did not do this. I have a coastal model which has additional filters which clogged with debre and algea from my home fresh water lake in VA. When the dealer took these filters out , I started to have this issue. I think the timing of the pumps may be off since the invasive species filters were removed. I do not have any bags on top of stock ballast.

[SoCal G-Man]

We go to San Vicente Reservoir in lakeside California an do trips to Parker an Lake Havasu. The water at San Vicente ranges from 100ft to 250ft deep. Went out yesterday. Picked up a 4’8 Ronix pot belly rocket. Great board but still couldn’t get a decent pocket length on the wave. Wednesday my dealer is going to bring his 2019 G to the lake. We’re going to weight my boat an his the same and surf them both. I think I just need someone experienced with these boats to get wave dialed. Or maybe there is something not working properly with the boat. Once again I really appreciate all your help an will update Wednesday on how it went.

Sounds nice! My NSS periodically sticks and does not build a wake. I have to shut the boat down, turn the power all the way off, restart everything, and then it works fine for awhile.

[GMLIII]

Sounds nice! My NSS periodically sticks and does not build a wake. I have to shut the boat down, turn the power all the way off, restart everything, and then it works fine for awhile.

If you switch the surf wave back a forth a few times on your LINC screen while boat is at surf speed,
it may solve your problem. Works for me when I have that issue with wave forming

[SoCal G-Man]

If you switch the surf wave back a forth a few times on your LINC screen while boat is at surf speed,
it may solve your problem. Works for me when I have that issue with wave forming

Thank you. When it first happened, we tried that a few times, since my friend with me has a G23 and he had that happen once or twice. We assumed it was just sticking. We also tried the remote and the pebble watch. It only happened on the port side. Since the dealer installed new boat & engine computers and a new wiring harness, we haven’t had that problem.

[jingram]

How much experience do you have wake surfing? Only reason i ask is most people feel like there is no push when they are first trying to learn.. Just doesn't make sense that there is little to no push. I can barely stay off the boat behind my G..

[WakeDad]

My ballasts start peeping out the overflow when the ballast tanks are about 50% full and continue peeing until the ballast arr 100% and pumps shut off, River mode should not effect you wave shape for the problem you are dealing with. To be honest with you, I think you just need more time behind the helm of your boat. It took be about 2 months before I dialed in my wave perfect and understood all the surf setting

Ballast overflowing that early seems odd, but whatever. My point was that he should run the pumps until there’s water pouring out of the sides of his boat. I’ll be honest and say I’ve never used river mode, but it’s my understanding it will basically adjust his GPS speed to a user defined amount when activated but the speed display shows set speed. In other words the dealer could have set it at 1.5 mph just to demo the feature and then never turned it off. If he’s got boat set at 11.6 he could actually be going 10.1 but his speedometer would read 11.6. Hence the short wave he’s experiencing. I may be wrong about how it all works, and if so, disregard my thoughts. Ultimately though I suspect you’re right that the OP just needs more time messing with the boat.

[greggmck]

How much experience do you have wake surfing? Only reason i ask is most people feel like there is no push when they are first trying to learn.. Just doesn't make sense that there is little to no push. I can barely stay off the boat behind my G..

Jingram makes a good point. But first a couple of questions: What side of the boat do you surf? ( Solutions for the goofy side are different from the regular side.) Are you a new surfer? Are you riding a surf style or skim board? How many people are usually in the boat?

I would also suggest it is important to solve this correctly or you will have issues of having to relearn how to surf down the road. For example: many people flatten the wave by speeding up the boat. This works, but then trying to do 360s, ride revert, and other tricks becomes infinitely more difficult because the faster you go the easier it is to catch an edge and fall. Most of the worlds best surfers ride between 10.8 and 11.3. Going faster will become problematic as you progress.

Here is a video of Angie riding a pretty flat wave configuration behind a 2018 G23. It has plenty of push...enough to ride revert for a long time!

https://www.facebook.com/32762394068...2315013218765/

To get this kind of wave most if not all of the weight has to be under the middle/front of the boat with 200 to 300lbs biased to the regular side. More if you are riding the goofy side. This can be accomplished by shifting ballast to the regular side too. But your weight / ballast configuration will depend upon how many are in your boat. It is very possible to overweight a G23 which causes rooster tails or a washed out surf wave.

Respond back with the questions above and I'd be happy to help you with your setup.

If you are questioning how I have come to understand how to properly configure a G23 wave, it's only after many years of trial and error / training / competing / and driving in competition. I just won the 2018 World Wake Surf Competition for Masters Men. And my son won the World title for Amateur Men. We have made many mistakes to get here and have built a collective knowledge within our wakesurf competitive family. But are happy to share our experience to help clear a better path for others.

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