Need help with 2018 g23 surf wave

[greggmck]

Greggmck! How about some surf lessons?

Do you live in the Seattle area? If so let me know. Always happy to share experiences and meet other surfers!

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[greggmck]

I am gonna rant (G21 here),

I like people advising XX% between 0 and 100. The % indication is only an indication and a very bad one. Check when you just arrive at 100% if your ballast overflow on the side (assuming pump still running). It never happened on mine excalty at 100%. Ok I am closer to 100% than 50% as someone mentionned in the thread but never at 100%. I always need to let the pump running pass 100%. It is even worst as none of the 3 pumps works the same.

Same again, empty up to 0% and stop the pump. Then put your boat on a lift or trailer and start emptying again. I bet you will still have water to empty out of your ballast. I did the test many times and always have water in my ballasts even if the indication was 0%.

So here is my advice, just go always full ballast that is until all 3 ballasts overflow with a nice full jet on the sides. This is the only repeatable and precise ballast indication you can get. Then use leads or people weight to tune your setting if needed. The prop rotation counter weight is all what I have in term of lead on mine.

End of my rant,

I can't say my experience is anything like yours. I drive boats in competition for pro and amateur surfers. I have owned 4 G23s. We set boats up specifically for competition and have timed and tested the ballast systems on many boats to give competitors the best, consistent wave. Of course these boats (Nautique, Centurion, Supreme) are all new. How old is your boat? You might want to have the ballast timers checked. When my G shows empty, I regularly run the pumps once the boat is on the lift and I only see a few gallons come out. My ballast overflow also hits right at 100%...

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Do you live in the Seattle area? If so let me know. Always happy to share experiences and meet other surfers!

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I do. I am in Kirkland beside Carillon Point. I plan to be on the water this Friday.

[WakeDan]

Jingram makes a good point. But first a couple of questions: What side of the boat do you surf? ( Solutions for the goofy side are different from the regular side.) Are you a new surfer? Are you riding a surf style or skim board? How many people are usually in the boat?

I would also suggest it is important to solve this correctly or you will have issues of having to relearn how to surf down the road. For example: many people flatten the wave by speeding up the boat. This works, but then trying to do 360s, ride revert, and other tricks becomes infinitely more difficult because the faster you go the easier it is to catch an edge and fall. Most of the worlds best surfers ride between 10.8 and 11.3. Going faster will become problematic as you progress.

Here is a video of Angie riding a pretty flat wave configuration behind a 2018 G23. It has plenty of push...enough to ride revert for a long time!

https://www.facebook.com/32762394068...2315013218765/

To get this kind of wave most if not all of the weight has to be under the middle/front of the boat with 200 to 300lbs biased to the regular side. More if you are riding the goofy side. This can be accomplished by shifting ballast to the regular side too. But your weight / ballast configuration will depend upon how many are in your boat. It is very possible to overweight a G23 which causes rooster tails or a washed out surf wave.

Respond back with the questions above and I'd be happy to help you with your setup.

If you are questioning how I have come to understand how to properly configure a G23 wave, it's only after many years of trial and error / training / competing / and driving in competition. I just won the 2018 World Wake Surf Competition for Masters Men. And my son won the World title for Amateur Men. We have made many mistakes to get here and have built a collective knowledge within our wakesurf competitive family. But are happy to share our experience to help clear a better path for others.

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Hello,

You posted this a few years back and I have to say that the wave in the video of Angie riding is top notch. I have a 2018 G23 and have been struggling to get a longer more mellow wave. We've had it for a couple years now and the wake is quite steep and all the adjustments I'm making have a minimal impact. I want to get it more family friendly specifically for my daughters and wife.

So, I'm reaching in hopes that you could share with me how you set up your 2018 G23 when you had it specific to how it was with Angie in the video. I would like to replicate to see if it will help with ours. I'm just really look for any input you may have.

Really appreciate the help! Thank you!