ZR450 CES - Ball valves to make winterization easier?

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  • imhoff
    • Jun 2016
    • 108

    • New Fairfield, CT

    • 2015 G23 450

    ZR450 CES - Ball valves to make winterization easier?

    Has anyone ever replaced all of the plugs (2015 450 engine) with ball valves so that it's easier to drain water from the system? The winterization diagram has the following items:

    1) Engine Oil Cooler - barbed fitting in hose?
    2) Raw Water Pump - barbed fitting in hose?
    3) Heat Exchanger - Plug
    4) Exhaust Manifold - Drain Plugs
    5) Exhaust Corners - Drain Plugs
    6) VDrive Drain - Plug
    7) Transmission Oil Cooler - Drain Plug

    It appears as though there's another plug on the bottom of the fuel filter. Am I missing anything else?

    Curious if this would really make a big difference in time as well as what sized fittings I would need.

  • charlesml3
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 2453

    • Lake Gaston, NC

    • 2022 G23

    #2
    Yes. My neighbor did this with his G23. They ride year-round so he drains whenever the weather is getting cold enough to freeze. He uses screw-in petcocks though.

    Do not put a valve at the bottom of the fuel filter. That's unnecessary and risky if it leaks.

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    • nohlan_4
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Jan 2016
      • 413

      • Canada

      • 2013 G23 450

      #3
      Originally posted by imhoff View Post
      Has anyone ever replaced all of the plugs (2015 450 engine) with ball valves so that it's easier to drain water from the system? The winterization diagram has the following items:

      1) Engine Oil Cooler - barbed fitting in hose?
      2) Raw Water Pump - barbed fitting in hose?
      3) Heat Exchanger - Plug
      4) Exhaust Manifold - Drain Plugs
      5) Exhaust Corners - Drain Plugs
      6) VDrive Drain - Plug
      7) Transmission Oil Cooler - Drain Plug

      It appears as though there's another plug on the bottom of the fuel filter. Am I missing anything else?

      Curious if this would really make a big difference in time as well as what sized fittings I would need.
      I just suck anti freeze up into the system and dont bother taking plugs out anymore. Has been easy and quick the past 3 winters.

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      • 75Tique
        • Apr 2008
        • 67

        • Seven Lakes NC


        #4
        sucking up antifreeze without draining has been demonstrated to result in diluted antifreeze and less protection. I see you are in Canada so it gets pretty cold, I am guessing maybe you have indoor storage for the winter. Even if it has worked for you, it is not recommended. Its quick and easy to drain, why risk the price of a block? You will not find any owners manual that does not suggest draining.

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        • nohlan_4
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Jan 2016
          • 413

          • Canada

          • 2013 G23 450

          #5
          Originally posted by 75Tique View Post
          sucking up antifreeze without draining has been demonstrated to result in diluted antifreeze and less protection. I see you are in Canada so it gets pretty cold, I am guessing maybe you have indoor storage for the winter. Even if it has worked for you, it is not recommended. Its quick and easy to drain, why risk the price of a block? You will not find any owners manual that does not suggest draining.
          Thats why you suck up much more anti freeze than the capacity of the system so you don't dilute as much. Even if it is diluted the burst rating of -50 degree antifreeze your still protected. The manual of course will never say this ok because of people thinking one 3 litre jug will protect there boat from freezing. I normally push 30 litres or more through my system.

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          • Jmulhollen
            • Oct 2018
            • 48

            • Clovis

            • 2019 Nautique g23

            #6
            I am interested in experiences here as well...all winter we have 5-10 days where freezing is a possibility and we use the boat all year. Have a 23 on the way and this seems like a great idea where possible.

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            • poecs13
              • Oct 2017
              • 23

              • Dallas, TX

              • 2015 Ski Nautique 200 TE 6.0L; 2005 Ski Nautique 206 6.0L (Sold in ‘23)

              #7
              I have a 2005 ZR6 motor. I live in Dallas so I was also looking for a solution to get the engine in and out of a winterized state quickly at the end of last summer. Fortunately my engine is equipped with the optional drain kit, essentially replacing all plugs with hoses that run to one master plug. When freezing temps are in the forecast at the end of a weekend, I simply pull the master plug, remove the plastic strainer and clear the water out of the raw water pump.

              i don’t know if such kits exist for other motors, but just wanted to report that simply draining worked well for my purposes last year in a more mild winter climate. I have not missed a month of skiing in 2018!

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              • Jmulhollen
                • Oct 2018
                • 48

                • Clovis

                • 2019 Nautique g23

                #8
                So if I understand correctly just replacing those fittings either with a nipple to clamp the hoses...but what “strainer” are you referring to?

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                • Evening Shade
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 1295

                  • Martinez, GA/Lake Greenwood, SC

                  • 2017 GS20 Previous: 2011 SAN 210, 2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jmulhollen View Post
                  So if I understand correctly just replacing those fittings either with a nipple to clamp the hoses...but what “strainer” are you referring to?
                  The sea water strainer. Its a plastic cup with wire strainer that strains debris from the water before it enters the transmission cooler, raw water pump, and ultimately the engine. It can be found in the raw water intake hose between the raw water intake and the raw water pump.
                  2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23 LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

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