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  • JD ski
    • Feb 2017
    • 101

    • Mountains North of Tahoe

    • 1999 Air Nautique, GT-40 Pro-Boss 1975 Century Re

    #16
    I have never had to deal with slim on a ramp but know what it is like. So in theory this should help eliminate the sliding a vehicle into the water if you have a real locking 4x4 set up not auto 4x4. Not a vehicle with a viscous slip center differential. If you place a locking 4x4 system into Hi-Fwd it will lock the front and rear axle together through the drive lines. So, two things here. E brakes only work on the rear axle but if you are in 4-wd the drive line is locking the front axle up also. This is putting a lot of stress on the E-brake but may keep a vehicle from sliding into the water. Also if you have an automatic transmission when you place the selector into park a pin is locking the transmission from rotating. When in 4-wd this is also stopping the front axle from turning. Use the two together, together they are stronger than independently.

    I know most guys would never think of using 4-wd at a boat ramp. It just is not needed. 4-wd is for tough situations and in most men's minds a boat ramp does not qualify. Well think of it this way. If it was winter and the ramp was covered in snow and ice and you were putting in a fishing boat, you would have your truck in 4-wd. But in summer the slippery part is in the water and you do not see it, but it is as slippery as ice.

    Now you do not want to always be using 4-wd on asphalt especially while maneuvering. But once you get the vehicle straight and ready to back up then place the vehicle in 4-wd. Continue forward until the system locks up. Then back into the water. Place the parking brake on and/or place in park. Now you will also have the front axle attempting to keep the vehicle from sliding/skidding into the water. Wheel chocks ( large industrial type made of soft rubber) are also a good idea for the rear of the vehicle. There is not much weight on the front axle when backing down a ramp so using a chock on the front axle may be less effective than one may hope.

    This method may help keep ones vehicle off the bottom of the lake. As long as you do not forget and leave the vehicle in reverse when you get out of it.

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    • SoCal G-Man
      • Apr 2016
      • 329

      • Westlake Village

      • 2019 Super Air Nautique G23

      #17
      If I were a divorce attorney, I would hang out at boat ramp all day and hand out cards... I have seen the start of many divorces unfold at launch ramps.
      2019 SAN G23 | 2016 SAN G23 | 2013 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2008 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2003 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2000 Wakesetter VLX | 1998 Sanger V210 | 1994 Magic Sceptor 28 | 1985 Cole TR2 | Too many PWC to count!

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      • bandit628
        • Sep 2016
        • 318

        • Southern Illinois

        • Current-2012 SANTE 210 Past Boats 2000 Mastercraft

        #18
        Steep ramps 4 low everytime.

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        • scottb7
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 2198

          • Carson City, Nevada

          • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

          #19
          What % of people do you think know that the parking brake only does the rear wheels?

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          • 72Miles
            • Mar 2016
            • 161

            • Charlotte, NC

            • 2014 G23

            #20
            Might not have been the parking brake. Might have just been in Park.

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            • Sailfun
              • Dec 2016
              • 131

              • Lake Norman NC

              • 2018 Nautique G23 2022 Robalo 226

              #21
              Originally posted by scottb7 View Post
              What % of people do you think know that the parking brake only does the rear wheels?
              Anyone who has ever done a bootleg turn!

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              • SoCal G-Man
                • Apr 2016
                • 329

                • Westlake Village

                • 2019 Super Air Nautique G23

                #22
                Originally posted by Sailfun View Post

                Anyone who has ever done a bootleg turn!
                LOL! I was thinking the same thing!
                2019 SAN G23 | 2016 SAN G23 | 2013 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2008 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2003 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2000 Wakesetter VLX | 1998 Sanger V210 | 1994 Magic Sceptor 28 | 1985 Cole TR2 | Too many PWC to count!

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                • scott resick
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 532

                  • Pittsburgh

                  • 2006 196 Limited

                  #23
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oq0YNo02KM

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                  • Infinity
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 730

                    • Lake Norman - Denver, NC

                    • 2014 SV244 w/ ZR409

                    #24
                    I always put my truck in 4x4 once I have it straightened out and about to back the boat down, just a habit I got into in case there is ever a bad situation and I do it whether the ramp is steep or not. Once I get trailer backed into water and in position, I put it in park of course as well as set the parking brake. My truck has locking differential and boat/trailer is about 8000lbs total with 24ft boat. I was driving newer GM 1500 for last 2 years (with max tow package and rated for 11k) and only time I was not 100% comfortable was in reverse backing down steep ramps, due to surge brakes not being able to activate and was considering adding EOH brakes this winter just for peace of mind. Even tho I did not have any "close calls" it was always in the back of my mind since I do drive a 1/2 ton, I tow less than 10 miles 95% of the time. Recently bought a 2019 Ram 1500 tho and even tho the ratings are similar to what the GM had, it feels much more solid in all situations, especially in reverse, probably partly due to the 15" brake rotors stabilizer bars and other mods that truck has.
                    Like most things in life tho, I would say that 95%+ of these incidents are due to driver error and/or driver not paying attention to conditions. I would say that the drivers that are thinking about what could go wrong, are way less likely to have any issues. If an issue starts to happen, its likely that catastrophe can be avoided with some common sense and in my experience, many people freak out and continue to do the wrong thing once things start going wrong rather than keeping calm (like slamming on brakes if trailer starts to sway, etc). Anyway, my .02

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                    • SoCal G-Man
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 329

                      • Westlake Village

                      • 2019 Super Air Nautique G23

                      #25
                      I never use reverse once I am on an incline. I always roll back slowly in neutral.
                      2019 SAN G23 | 2016 SAN G23 | 2013 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2008 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2003 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2000 Wakesetter VLX | 1998 Sanger V210 | 1994 Magic Sceptor 28 | 1985 Cole TR2 | Too many PWC to count!

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                      • ST3
                        • Sep 2017
                        • 100

                        • Vermont


                        #26
                        There is data missing with these videos. How many vehicles ended up in the water/in trouble with the operator under the influence of some substance/liquid? I’m just curious if there is any relationship to the sobriety level of the operator to the incident. Note: I am just asking not making any statement.


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