Difference between SAN 210TE,220TE,230TE and 211,226,236

[teddysx3]

Hello all, I'm new to the Nautique boats, and wanted to ask some of you for your personal opinion on some of these boats. I'm looking to get 2004-2007 year boat. I will be wakeboarding and surfing so i do like to have a good to great wake, but still enjoy chilling inside the boat.

From what i understand and have read, the 210,220 and 230 are kind of in the same line up for best wakeboard boats. 210 being the best out of them. the 220 has some changes in the layout, and for the 230? Is the 230 just a newer 220?

For the 211,226 and 236 are they all crossover boats? I know that the 211 is, and 226 is just a little bit wider 211. What about 236? newer 226?

Can you all comment on the boats that you have experience with. Like best boat with the best W2W wake, best boat for surf wake, and best boat for all round chillin layout.

Thanks all of you for your opinions.

[NautiDave07]

The 236 is exactly the same hull as the 230. It was originally released in 07 as a crossover and was remarketed as the 230 in 08 because it was it a true wakeboard beast rather than a good crossover. If memory serves me the only difference between the two was interior striping and the prop

[Usaf167aw]

I had an older 226 and it was a pretty good boat overall, I upgrade this past summer to a 230 and it’s hands down a better boat in all aspects. It just does everything so well. Surf wave is really good with plug and play bags. There is so much room for just hanging out. I don’t wakeboard but have heard people say it does that well also.


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[ZIRB3L]

So, the first noticeable difference between 210,220, and 230 is that the 210 is roughly 21ft, 220 is 22ft, and the 230 is 23ft. The 2001-2006 SAN 210 hull is known for putting out a much loved steep wakeboard wake. The surf wave can be really good with the right weight and shaper, but it is still just a 21ft boat so nothing super crazy. A lot of people seem to like their 220. I have read that the wake is a bit touchier and the interior layout is quite a bit different from the 210 and the 230. The older 230s have been putting out some really awesome waves from what I have seen. It being longer and able to hold more weight helps to make an appealing wave. I haven't read much about the wakeboard wake. As Dave said, the 236 and the 230 have the same hull just different layout. The 211, 226, and 236 are supposed to be crossover boats. I don't know too much about them.

There is a thread somewhere that breaks the 210 down by year. Ill try to find it.

[Bigdogsuperair]

Having owned a 220 for several years and also ridden behind several of my friends 210's of various years I can attest to the steeper wake on the 210 and a more ramp style wake on my 220. I have not spent any time on a 230 as we have length limits here. The wake shaper with extra 500's in the rear compartments gives a clean surf wake with a nice pocket. The biggest plus for the 220 for us was the additional storage that the compartments midship which gives a nice fixed backrest also. With young kids we really needed the dedicated storage for shoes shirts etc that the port side "locker" compartment offered as well as the trash can behind the drivers seat. Also the extra foot in length gives us a little more room to move around when just floating. We have added extra fat sacs to the rear, center and nose which really boosted the wake. We found nose weight essential to keep from porpoising when loaded.

I have no experience with the crossover series but always envied the walkaround for getting to the swim platform rather than walking over the sunpad.

[homer12]

I’ve got a 211 and really like it. Biggest features are walk through in the back (especially with kids). Does fair at skiing when you get to 30mph plus. Puts out a decent wakeboard wake with extra weight. We surf it but if this was your first priority I would go a different route.


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[Paxdad]

Specific to your W2W concern on my 08 210 only. The wake to wake difference is substantially wider from 65 feet back compared to the OG 210 wake. So if you struggle with “pop” to go wake to wake and use speed you will know the difference immediately. My boys at one time were very good behind the boat and progressed to ride at 85’ which although a much wider wake to wake distance also provided a much greater time and height in the air to throw serious air tricks. Hopefully this will make sense to you as you are asking about wake to wake (W2W).


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[teddysx3]

Hello all,

Thanks for your input. It really helps for me to decide some stuff. I didn't know that the 210,220, and 230 is basically the length of the boat, and some changes in the layout.

Maybe i'm interested in the 210, 220 or the 211 as far as i see it.

How do you guys weigh you boats for good surf waves? good wake wave? I'm talking about the extra ballasts, having the fact that i will pick up a TE with stock ballasts. Is ballast in the bow important, or can i buy some sacs for the stern and center.

[Luebowski]

How do you guys weigh you boats for good surf waves? good wake wave? I'm talking about the extra ballasts, having the fact that i will pick up a TE with stock ballasts. Is ballast in the bow important, or can i buy some sacs for the stern and center.

In my 2004 210 we have 750lbs in each rear compartment and try to put 5-600lbs in the bow of people/lead for surfing + a suck gate on the side. I only fill the ballast half way up when wakeboarding since we are more intermediate and usually ride 65-70 ft.

[teddysx3]

In my 2004 210 we have 750lbs in each rear compartment and try to put 5-600lbs in the bow of people/lead for surfing + a suck gate on the side. I only fill the ballast half way up when wakeboarding since we are more intermediate and usually ride 65-70 ft.

Nice. So you mean you put extra 750lbs in each locker on top of all the stock ballast correct? So you fill your stock ballast to full, and then add some 1500 in the rear, and 500-600 in the bow?

[Luebowski]

Nice. So you mean you put extra 750lbs in each locker on top of all the stock ballast correct? So you fill your stock ballast to full, and then add some 1500 in the rear, and 500-600 in the bow?

Sorry, No, i ripped out stock hard tanks and put 750 bags in. Will be adding another hundred pounds of lead per side over the winter. Correct on the bow weight.

[Paxdad]

08 210 I have mine set up as follows for surf:
Stock ballast full plus 800# (400 each side) on top of rear hard tanks. 100# lead in nose and another 300# lead positioned midship depending on people on board plus suck gate. This is for surf. The 210 like bow weight. You can actually overweight it in rear and kill the push.
For wake I run full stock ballast and #200 in each rear bag and adjust for people onboard.


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