Anybody notice Ford's new 7.3L PUSHROD V8?

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  • Miljack
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    • Dec 2004
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    • Charlotte, NC

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    Anybody notice Ford's new 7.3L PUSHROD V8?

    Hi,
    Ford's announcement of their new 7.3L V8 pushrod engine for their new Superduty truck is interesting. I wonder if Indmar will stay with the current "cammers" or move to this engine? My experience with the Ford HD trucks with the cammer engines, they need ALOT of RPM's to go anywhere...
    I'm not sure how that would translate into performing well in a boat application...
    2008 230 TE-ZR6
    1999 Pro Air Python-sold and moved away :-(
  • Evening Shade
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    • Apr 2015
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    • Martinez, GA/Lake Greenwood, SC

    • 2017 GS20 Previous: 2011 SAN 210, 2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

    #2
    I did see that Ford was going to offer a 7.3L gasser, but didn't catch any details. Interesting move since the industry trend has been moving toward smaller engines.

    My brother used to work at a Ford dealer and he always heard from their best service tech that the Ford V10 was one of the best engines Ford ever produced. Maybe Ford is again looking for an ultra reliable gas engine for big trucks. Seems a big push rod V8 would be more reliable than a smaller OHC, forced induction engine (and cheaper to manufacture).

    It will be interesting to see Indmar gets on board with it.
    2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23 LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

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    • Nautiquehunter
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      • Jun 2008
      • 2080

      • Flowery Branch GA Lake Lanier

      • 2008 210 SANTE 67 Correct Craft Mustang

      #3
      V10? Try and replace spark plugs in one?

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      • idahosan
        • Jun 2012
        • 171

        • Boise/McCall, Idaho

        • 05 196 22 T220

        #4
        Anyone that says the V10 was one of fords best engines, either makes a lot of money off the repairs or has never owned one. We’ve had 2 work trucks with the V10 and both are gutless hunks of metal.

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        • Kenv
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          • Jan 2004
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          • Texas

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          #5
          Yeah.....but they are in SO MANY motorhomes and medium duty work truck all over the US..and the world....for many years running now. Not saying they are the greatest...but they are surely widespread.....

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          • Nautiquehunter
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            • Jun 2008
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            • 2008 210 SANTE 67 Correct Craft Mustang

            #6
            Lots of big block Chevys in trucks , RV's and boats . I own 3 inboards with 351 ford engines probably the best engines Ford ever made. I have 1100 hours on me 08 5.7 no issues yet. I will never buy Indmar because they use new Ford engines.

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            • oldsmobiledriver
              • May 2017
              • 47

              • Amarillo, TX

              • 2012 MB Sports F21 Tomcat

              #7
              New Ford motor 👎🏻


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              • StagNW
                • Aug 2009
                • 76

                • PNW

                • 1996 Ski Nautique

                #8
                Originally posted by Evening Shade View Post
                I did see that Ford was going to offer a 7.3L gasser, but didn't catch any details. Interesting move since the industry trend has been moving toward smaller engines.

                My brother used to work at a Ford dealer and he always heard from their best service tech that the Ford V10 was one of the best engines Ford ever produced. Maybe Ford is again looking for an ultra reliable gas engine for big trucks. Seems a big push rod V8 would be more reliable than a smaller OHC, forced induction engine (and cheaper to manufacture).

                It will be interesting to see Indmar gets on board with it.
                Very interesting. I worked at a Ford dealer on the Diesel trucks for a number of years. I was never impressed with the V10. I knew a few guys that had them, they always seemed to mention the atrocious fuel mileage. I can’t and wont argue your brothers opinion. However, I believe the 6.7 Powerstroke is one of the best engines ford had made in regards to truck engines.

                I also noticed issues with trucks are different geographically. So where you live the V10 may be money! Up here in the PNW, it’s meh.

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                • Evening Shade
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by StagNW View Post

                  Very interesting. I worked at a Ford dealer on the Diesel trucks for a number of years. I was never impressed with the V10. I knew a few guys that had them, they always seemed to mention the atrocious fuel mileage. I can’t and wont argue your brothers opinion. However, I believe the 6.7 Powerstroke is one of the best engines ford had made in regards to truck engines.

                  I also noticed issues with trucks are different geographically. So where you live the V10 may be money! Up here in the PNW, it’s meh.

                  .02
                  The service techs told my brother the V10 was good engine. My brother had no personal experience with the V10.

                  I haven't heard any negatives about the 6.7L Powerstroke. How was your experience with the 6.0 and 6.4 Powerstrokes? I've never heard anything good about those 2 engines.

                  My brother was in sales and said that no one really wanted the 7.3L diesel the last couple years it was made, but then when Ford switched to the next generation Powerstroke people were always looking for the 7.3L trucks on the used lot. Go figure.
                  Last edited by Evening Shade; 02-19-2019, 01:40 PM.
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                  • nyryan2001
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                    • Mar 2013
                    • 1993

                    • Lake Anna


                    #10
                    And GM going to. 6.6 gasser... retiring the 6.0 gas engine.
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                    • StagNW
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 76

                      • PNW

                      • 1996 Ski Nautique

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Evening Shade View Post

                      The service techs told my brother the V10 was good engine. My brother had no personal experience with the V10.

                      I haven't heard any negatives about the 6.7L Powerstroke. How was your experience with the 6.0 and 6.4 Powerstrokes? I've never heard anything good about those 2 engines.

                      My brother was in sales and said that no one really wanted the 7.3L diesel the last couple years it was made, but then when Ford switched to the next generation Powerstroke people were always looking for the 7.3L trucks on the used lot. Go figure.
                      My fault, i must have mis read the part about his experience.

                      The 6.0 Powerstroke was a van motor from Europe IIRC, they modified and put in the trucks. It was never an ideal platform. The guys before my time would talk about having to push the early 6.0's off the truck when they were delivered new. One of the factors that magnified the issue was Ford selling 3/4 million of these trucks over the lifespan. There were so many trucks out there, when there was an issue, there were lots of issues. There were a lot of little quarks, but once they were all worked out, they are relatively reliable trucks. There are unaffected trucks out there, i've worked on many 6.0's with high miles, mostly original and original owner. Owners say they had never had an issue with the truck. So they exist. People were happy to ditch the sluggish 7.3 PS for the new peppy 6.0 and many of them regretted it. Here in the PNW, the 7.3's fetch a premium still, similar to older Cummins rigs. The prices are just crazy. The 6.3 was basically the 6.0 stroked, and a high pressure fuel system added. The emissions by means of a DPF simply restricted the exhaust and again caused issues. Up here those trucks fetch a premium as well. I heard stories of guys from the mid west deleting the emissions and doing truck pulls with them otherwise stock, mostly because of the factory twin turbo setup.

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                      • SoCal G-Man
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 329

                        • Westlake Village

                        • 2019 Super Air Nautique G23

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Evening Shade View Post

                        The service techs told my brother the V10 was good engine. My brother had no personal experience with the V10.

                        I haven't heard any negatives about the 6.7L Powerstroke. How was your experience with the 6.0 and 6.4 Powerstrokes? I've never heard anything good about those 2 engines.

                        My brother was in sales and said that no one really wanted the 7.3L diesel the last couple years it was made, but then when Ford switched to the next generation Powerstroke people were always looking for the 7.3L trucks on the used lot. Go figure.
                        Good info. I am amazed at the high prices of clean used Ford Excursion diesels. Clean 7.3 Excursions (through mid-2003) are selling for more than the 2003-2005 Excursions with the 6.0. The Bulletproof kit helps make the 6.0 more reliable, but a programmer and CAI makes the 7.3 feel like a 6.0. I recently made an offer on a 2003 7.3 EB Edition with 67k original miles, and the seller will not budge. He is $14k over KBB.
                        2019 SAN G23 | 2016 SAN G23 | 2013 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2008 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2003 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2000 Wakesetter VLX | 1998 Sanger V210 | 1994 Magic Sceptor 28 | 1985 Cole TR2 | Too many PWC to count!

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                        • Evening Shade
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by SoCal G-Man View Post

                          Good info. I am amazed at the high prices of clean used Ford Excursion diesels. Clean 7.3 Excursions (through mid-2003) are selling for more than the 2003-2005 Excursions with the 6.0. The Bulletproof kit helps make the 6.0 more reliable, but a programmer and CAI makes the 7.3 feel like a 6.0. I recently made an offer on a 2003 7.3 EB Edition with 67k original miles, and the seller will not budge. He is $14k over KBB.
                          People love that 7.3. It's such a great engine and sellers know it.

                          The official PN tow vehicle is an Excursion. Not sure if it's a 7.3 or a 6.0. My guess is the only reason Jeff still has it is because it has the 7.3.
                          2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23 LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

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                          • SoCal G-Man
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 329

                            • Westlake Village

                            • 2019 Super Air Nautique G23

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Evening Shade View Post

                            People love that 7.3. It's such a great engine and sellers know it.

                            The official PN tow vehicle is an Excursion. Not sure if it's a 7.3 or a 6.0. My guess is the only reason Jeff still has it is because it has the 7.3.
                            In 2002, I did a ton of product dyno testing on the 7.3 Excursion. I tested every programmer, air intake, and aftermarket catback exhaust available that was 50-State legal. One odd finding: The $50 Napa “Big Truck Muffler” made the same (more in a few cases) HP as every aftermarket system. Banks, Borla, Magnaflow, Gibson, Etc all failed to beat the $50 muffler from Napa. LOL! Ford had done their homework on that 7.3 setup, and it was efficient. With the Airforce One CAI, Napa Muffler, and Edge Programmer, I was able to average over 23mpg on the highway. Towing my old LSV to the river and back, averaged just over 17mpg... Yes, towing.

                            Hopefully I can find a clean low mileage one.
                            2019 SAN G23 | 2016 SAN G23 | 2013 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2008 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2003 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2000 Wakesetter VLX | 1998 Sanger V210 | 1994 Magic Sceptor 28 | 1985 Cole TR2 | Too many PWC to count!

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                            • Kevcec94
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 43

                              • New Jersey


                              #15
                              Not to hijack this thread but I haven't seen anyone discuss this one yet.... Indmar has introduced an ecoboost engine into their lineup. It looks like there is a new jet propulsion system to match it, but the articles talk a lot of towed sports with this engine. Who knows, maybe we'll see it in a 2020 inboard?!

                              https://www.indmar.com/engines/23l-ecoboost/

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