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  • Gschofield62
    • Mar 2019
    • 105

    • Regina beach, Saskatchewan

    • 2020 G23

    How to lengthen wave

    We've had our boat for 66 hours now. I'm pretty familiar with what the nautique surf system does as well as the ncrs. What I want to know is how do we lengthen the wave wow not forming a bunch of whitewash at the top of the wave? I see it in online videos that people have posted. Can anyone help with what to set things at?

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  • st68
    • Feb 2014
    • 191

    • Roswell, Georgia


    #2
    Your speed should be around 11.2 to 11.4. extra weight in the bow will help lengthen the wave too. 250 lbs or so. Wave should be pretty long to begin with if ballast and settings are good. wave wash to the port side can happen b/d of prop rotation and driver weight. Most offset this by putting 250 to 300 lbs under the mid port seat

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    • GMLIII
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • May 2013
      • 2792

      • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

      • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

      #3
      When I skim board vs surf style, I fill belly ballast at 100% but port and starboard ballast at only 75%, I also have 200 lbs of steel shot bags in the bow of my boat all the time. Both help lenghten the wave. As stated above I have 250 lbs of steel shot bags under portside observer seat. Speed 11.2
      Last edited by GMLIII; 07-16-2019, 09:03 AM.

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      • nohlan_4
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Jan 2016
        • 413

        • Canada

        • 2013 G23 450

        #4
        Originally posted by Gschofield62 View Post
        We've had our boat for 66 hours now. I'm pretty familiar with what the nautique surf system does as well as the ncrs. What I want to know is how do we lengthen the wave wow not forming a bunch of whitewash at the top of the wave? I see it in online videos that people have posted. Can anyone help with what to set things at?

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        Do you have any extra weight in the boat besides stock ballast? Get at least 500 pounds of steelshot/lead weight and then ask back here for placement of it.

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        • greggmck
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Oct 2014
          • 795

          • Bellevue WA

          • 2023 Paragon G23

          #5
          Originally posted by Gschofield62 View Post
          We've had our boat for 66 hours now. I'm pretty familiar with what the nautique surf system does as well as the ncrs. What I want to know is how do we lengthen the wave wow not forming a bunch of whitewash at the top of the wave? I see it in online videos that people have posted. Can anyone help with what to set things at?

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          The concepts for shaping the wave are based on two factors: Speed and bow attitude. The faster the speed, the longer the wave. The lower the bow, the longer the wave.

          Conversely, a slower speed results in a steeper, shorter wave. And slower speeds also result in a shorter, steeper wave.

          So moving weight to the center and into the bow will lower the bow and lengthen the wave. Also speeding up the boat to 11.5 MPH or so will also lengthen the wave.

          Like most things you can over do it. Too much weight in the bow will cause the boat to take on water when you hit any sized wave. Surfing too fast will make rotational tricks more difficult and increase the potential for harder falls.

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          • Gschofield62
            • Mar 2019
            • 105

            • Regina beach, Saskatchewan

            • 2020 G23

            #6
            Originally posted by nohlan_4 View Post

            Do you have any extra weight in the boat besides stock ballast? Get at least 500 pounds of steelshot/lead weight and then ask back here for placement of it.
            I have none and I really want to avoid putting any aftermarket ballast in. We went out today and tried a few if the suggestions on here and my nephew pulled off the first 360 behind the boat. So I think were good for our skill levels with the stock setups.

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            • nohlan_4
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Jan 2016
              • 413

              • Canada

              • 2013 G23 450

              #7
              Originally posted by Gschofield62 View Post
              I have none and I really want to avoid putting any aftermarket ballast in. We went out today and tried a few if the suggestions on here and my nephew pulled off the first 360 behind the boat. So I think were good for our skill levels with the stock setups.

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              500 pounds is very little extra weight and you will see a large improvement. I would reconsider that thought tbh.

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              • nyryan2001
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 1993

                • Lake Anna


                #8
                Add weight, speed up. 11.6 -11.7. More lean to the surf side with all occupants on the surf side.

                2019 G23: 11.7, NCRS 5, SurfVert1, 3000lbs OEM Ballast, 200lbs lead, full gas, 3x ~150lb passengers


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                • sbaird4000
                  • Jul 2018
                  • 106

                  • Maine

                  • 2017 Super Air Nautique 230

                  #9
                  I’ve never surfed behind a g23 but have surfed behind a gs22. That wave has a pretty defined lip, looks very similar to the gs22 I surfed behind but it’s quite a bit taller. Is the lip characteristic of the g23 also?


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                  • Gtsum2
                    • Jul 2019
                    • 224

                    • Virginia

                    • 2020 G23

                    #10
                    More bow weight = longer wave? Better for beginner?


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                    • greggmck
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 795

                      • Bellevue WA

                      • 2023 Paragon G23

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Gtsum2 View Post
                      More bow weight = longer wave? Better for beginner?


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                      More bow weight = longer wave? Yes. Better for a beginner? Well that depends. Most beginners don't use the whole wave. And most beginners want a steeper wave for carving and to make it easier to stay on the wave. So usually beginners prefer to start slow, say 11.0 to 11.2 mph. NCRS 4 or 5. As they progress they will likely want to speed up the boat to 11.3 to 11.5 and lengthen the wave with NCRS 2 or 3.

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