Ballast selection for my 2009 230?

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  • Infinity
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Sep 2017
    • 730

    • Lake Norman - Denver, NC

    • 2014 SV244 w/ ZR409

    #16
    You have plenty of weight, I think the key ingredients have already been mentioned above.....but I think you should try to focus on the below 2 things next time:

    #1) LIST the boat a little bit to the surf side (try 350lbs or so less on the non-surf side). Even with a shaper, adding some list crabs the boat a bit more and will increase the push of the wave. Trust me, it makes a difference and your comment above about how "turning slightly to surf side will increase push when you are surfing" further backs this up since as you turn into the wave, the boat lists itself.
    #2) Still use the suck gate of course....but note its position once under way (at surf speed), you need the top of the suck gate to protrude out of the water some when at surf speed, it will produce a rooster tail of water but this disturbance is needed since if the suck gate is buried under the water you will lose half of your available "wave push" even if the wave looks good back there.

    For speed, you want between 10.8-11.4mph, play with this as speed can make a big difference...make sure you also play with the center adjustment that brings bow up/down. Start at the middle setting and go from there but bow higher = taller wave, and bow lower = longer/shorter wave.
    Make sure you water depth is 20ft plus

    All that said, you should not be dropping the rope till you can ride for 30-60 seconds with slack in the rope. Surfing is technique and takes water time. Many people think they are doing it right and its a wave issue....but then see themselves in video and realize that they had the board pointed away from the wave rather than into it. May also be worth taking some video of yourself since you can watch it later and SEE what you are doing, I was able to progress in many areas of surfing by watching myself on video.
    Once you have wake surfed enough to "feel" the wave you will be able to ride any wave ropeless.

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    • Mtnsurfer
      • Aug 2019
      • 1

      • Colorado Springs, Colorado

      • 2008 super air Nautique 146hrs

      #17
      I have a 220 sante with a similar setup to you guys. My question is, do you have pictures of these wave such as mine?
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      • nautiques4life
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Jan 2009
        • 696

        • SoCal

        • 2012 SANTE 230 Previous: 2005 SANTE 210 1997 OG Air Nautique

        #18
        Post some photos/video... let's see where you're at.

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        • Laptom
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Oct 2003
          • 876

          • Eindhoven, Netherlands


          #19
          Is your prop ok?

          I can surf ropeless with a 2008 230 with stock ballast, 1/2 fuel tank, 2-3 people and a Mission gate at 10.7mph. This push is limited with this but surfable.
          With that amount of weight the wave should be world class.

          Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G975F met Tapatalk

          230 with ZR6 running on propane

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          • wakefan
            • Jun 2012
            • 79

            • TX

            • 2009 SANTE 230

            #20
            Originally posted by Laptom View Post
            Is your prop ok?

            I can surf ropeless with a 2008 230 with stock ballast, 1/2 fuel tank, 2-3 people and a Mission gate at 10.7mph. This push is limited with this but surfable.
            With that amount of weight the wave should be world class.

            Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G975F met Tapatalk
            As far as I know the prop is ok. No weird vibrations, no apparent bends or nicks etc... Good thing to look at though.

            Had my best outing last week. I had both the nauticurl and the mega waskshapers on the starboard side. Full stock tanks full. Plumbed in rear 750's, had full on left, and about 3/4 full on right. 300lbs of lead on left, plus 170 lb passenger on left. 300 ish pounds in fatsac in bow. Managed to go for about a minute without the rope.

            Biggest change I made honestly was my posture on the board. I think I'm angling the board away from the boat, instead of into the wave. I read this somewhere, but thought about having my front (left) foot on a screw, and screwing it into the board toward the boat. Maybe I made that up. Who knows. Anyway, it seemed to help me find the sweet spot more often, and for longer duration.

            Question, have ya'll found the weight of the rider to correlate to the need for a bigger(?), longer(?), steeper(?) wake? How about correlation with boat speed requirements?

            Thanks!

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