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  • nautiques4life
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jan 2009
    • 696

    • SoCal

    • 2012 SANTE 230 Previous: 2005 SANTE 210 1997 OG Air Nautique

    Advanced wakeboarding wake only 230 info needed

    Currently have a 2012 230 and many of you may know that wasn't nautique's best wake for wakeboarding, wide, crumbly, needs tons of weight, super sensitive to L/R weight, etc.
    Love everything else about the boat... just not the wakeboarding wake.
    Question is, how many of the legit riders are familiar with the new 230 hull's WAKEBOARDing wake?
    There are tons of threads about wakesurfing for this boat... cant find any about wakebaord wake.
    I know G23 is better but is too big and out of my budget. So for now we don't need comments that I shoukd just get a G.

    So if anyone has experience with the new 230 hull for wakeboarding only, especially if you came from the 07-13 230, I would love to hear your opinion, thanks Click image for larger version

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  • sbaird4000
    • Jul 2018
    • 106

    • Maine

    • 2017 Super Air Nautique 230

    #2
    That’s a great picture!


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    • swatguy
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • May 2008
      • 1631

      • Midwest/ Northern IL

      • 2008 SANTE 210

      #3
      What weight , length, and speed are you running right now? I didn’t find it overly sensitive but I have owned quite a few centurions with deep v’s that were def more sensitive.....Pop bags are a must in there to move around easily to balance the boat with different crews. The key to the 230 is speed . You have to ride faster than most boats, anything loaded up under 23mph will most likely curl . 23.5-24.5 at 75ft seems to be the sweet spot from my experience behind a 2012 . We are primarily wakeboarders so the boat was pretty dialed for that. I know I as at 24.2 on his boat and I ride 23.3 on mine. Wake was def bit peakier on the 230.

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      • nautiques4life
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Jan 2009
        • 696

        • SoCal

        • 2012 SANTE 230 Previous: 2005 SANTE 210 1997 OG Air Nautique

        #4
        Tried it all, this is my 3rd nautique and my least favorite wake of all of them. I've got plenty of weight, 1100's in the rear, stock belly, plus overflow triangle under the bow seats. Also have about 6 lead bags, 3 permanently hidden and 3 that float around as needed. I usually only hit max capacity for wakesurfing, but even still I doubt weight is our issue. I used to ride that fast, speeding up helps narrow and clean it some, but at the expense of ramp/vert. I miss my OG 210 I guess... although otherwise I much prefer the 230.
        My question is how do the newer hull's wakeboarding wake compare?

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        • scottb7
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 2198

          • Carson City, Nevada

          • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

          #5
          yeah, no help from me...but i feel ya...my buddy had the 2010 230. And we weighted it down a lot and had pretty good luck with it. But finicky side to side, and had to ride faster then we wanted to as we got into our mid 30s/40ish age. I had the 2008 210 was always clean, and narrow...any speed.

          Since we were hungry for big wakes he traded the 230 for an axis a24. And another buddy has the axis a22. Axis clean at any speed and not finicky side to side.

          Maybe someone on this site can offer you a pull on a late model 230....

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          • Luebowski
            • Aug 2017
            • 104

            • CA

            • 2004 SANTE 210

            #6
            Im curious to see some more response here on the newer hull,, I want to move up to a 230 eventually but my crew are not advanced so we ride around 21-22 mph usually. I thought the 230 would be a no brainer for wakeboarding wake but maybe not depending on year.

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            • nautiques4life
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Jan 2009
              • 696

              • SoCal

              • 2012 SANTE 230 Previous: 2005 SANTE 210 1997 OG Air Nautique

              #7
              Originally posted by scottb7 View Post
              yeah, no help from me...but i feel ya...my buddy had the 2010 230. And we weighted it down a lot and had pretty good luck with it. But finicky side to side, and had to ride faster then we wanted to as we got into our mid 30s/40ish age. I had the 2008 210 was always clean, and narrow...any speed.

              Since we were hungry for big wakes he traded the 230 for an axis a24. And another buddy has the axis a22. Axis clean at any speed and not finicky side to side.

              Maybe someone on this site can offer you a pull on a late model 230....
              I agree, my friend's axis is clean and rampy at like 17... if I had kids I might have to leave nautiques for that feature alone.

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              • srock
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 1066

                • Florida

                • 2009 Super Air 230 2005 Whaler Dauntless

                #8
                Its just nice to see a non-surf thread. I run 23-24 on the 230 and that seems to be the key to a clean wake regardless of ballast.

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                • nautiques4life
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 696

                  • SoCal

                  • 2012 SANTE 230 Previous: 2005 SANTE 210 1997 OG Air Nautique

                  #9
                  Originally posted by srock View Post
                  Its just nice to see a non-surf thread. I run 23-24 on the 230 and that seems to be the key to a clean wake regardless of ballast.
                  Haha... agreed. # of threads on new 230 surf wake seem endless.

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                  • migs
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 703

                    • San Mateo, CA

                    • SAN 210 TE

                    #10
                    Glad to see this thread as well! Before the G came out, the 230 was "The Boat" for all the nautique pros. If you listen to the Golden Mic podcast, one of the very early ones with Watson & a non nautique pro, you could hear them talking about how the other non nautique pros, love his wake on the 230.
                    I'd send Murray a DM and ask him how he weighed his 230. Hes pretty responsive to questions, especially if its nautique related.
                    My buddy has a 2011 230, and the wake is legit - we ride at 24-25mph. NOt crazy slammed -im guessing about 2.5K total on top of the factory ballast.
                    Basically a sac in each rear locker - (I think its the 750's - not the 1100s)
                    A 300 sac on the floor against the rear bench (or right on top of the rear bench).
                    A 300 sac in the walk way to the bow (right next to the driver)
                    and a 500 (I think) sac in the bow.
                    Migs

                    G21 - En route
                    SAN 210 TE (Finally)
                    06 Sky Supreme V220(previous)
                    05 Sanger V210(previous)
                    01 MC X1(previous)
                    99 Air Warrior(previous)

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                    • nautiques4life
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 696

                      • SoCal

                      • 2012 SANTE 230 Previous: 2005 SANTE 210 1997 OG Air Nautique

                      #11
                      Appreciate it migs... and I agree it was "the nautique" at the time.
                      Any idea about the newer 230's wake?

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                      • d_nodixon
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 475

                        • Hammond, LA

                        • 2013 SAN 230

                        #12
                        This doesn't help with the new hull, but I'm happy with my 2013 230...running 3500# total water ballast. 1100 hundreds in the back, plus the belly tank and the remainder in a triangle sac in the bow under floor(yes, u can get one in there).

                        with 6-8 adults, a couple hundred pounds of gear and an ice chest placed properly it's pretty nice, but a bit sensitive side to side. Folks know the drill though...hey you here and you there. We usually run 23-23.5 with that size crowd. Can slow down to 22.8 with no one in the boat. Riding at 75'.

                        Make sure you have the hydro gate at vert (disengaged/up) when running full blast. With it at ramp with full ballast it washes out pretty bad.
                        I have found that it does help to be on ramp with no ballast for the kiddos. A touch cleaner at slower speeds with little/no ballast....still trying to perfect that

                        I ultimately want to upgrade to G, but happy with my 230. My Previous boat was 2006 210 and I still miss it...we were shuffling people in that boat also.



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                        2013 SAN 230
                        2006 SSN 210 (SOLD)

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