NSS plates extended above 13 mph?

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  • GMLIII
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • May 2013
    • 2799

    • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

    • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

    #16
    Originally posted by OHLNautique View Post

    That comment came straight from Nautique, not the dealer.
    Still makes no sense. Post pictures as Kmayotte states with plates deployed at wakeboard speeds. Did you talk to a tech at Nautque or just some goon in customer service?

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    • shag
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Jul 2003
      • 2217

      • Florida


      #17
      If they have to deploy the plates to improve handling....... I just don't know about this one...

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      • Kmayotte
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Apr 2010
        • 819

        • Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

        • 2016 G23, 1999 SN Python Past: 2004 SANTE, 1993 SN

        #18
        It occurred to me while wakeboarding this weekend that you can see the NSS plates clearly from behind the boat at wakeboard speed. Obviously they are fully retracted on my G23. I'd be curious to see this view from a 2020 GS boat.

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        • OHLNautique
          • May 2008
          • 140

          • TN


          #19
          So I actually spoke to a person at Nautique on Friday. He did re-confirm that the 19-20 GS 24's and 2020 GS22's extend the plates one inch above 13mph. When I asked why, he said to improve stability and it can't be disabled. The guy did offer some suggestions to help clean up the wake. I was impressed that someone actually called me.

          Over the weekend I did a lot of tweaking on the NCRS/NSS settings and ballast levels. I was able to get the wake board wake pretty clean at 22-23 mph. I had to empty the belly ballast about 50% and put NCRS on 5 to get it completely out of the way. With the belly full it lowers the bow and gets the "ski boat" part of the hull down in the water which washes the wake for whatever reason. I've also figured out that the boat is very sensitive to uneven weight side to side. I've learned to use the ballast shift to compensate if I can't get people in perfect spots.

          Figuring out how to get the wake board wake cleaned up has relieved my initial frustration with the plates extending. Overall we are extremely happy with the boat and it is now performing exactly how it is supposed to.

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          • GMLIII
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • May 2013
            • 2799

            • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

            • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

            #20
            Originally posted by OHLNautique View Post
            So I actually spoke to a person at Nautique on Friday. He did re-confirm that the 19-20 GS 24's and 2020 GS22's extend the plates one inch above 13mph. When I asked why, he said to improve stability and it can't be disabled. The guy did offer some suggestions to help clean up the wake. I was impressed that someone actually called me.

            Over the weekend I did a lot of tweaking on the NCRS/NSS settings and ballast levels. I was able to get the wake board wake pretty clean at 22-23 mph. I had to empty the belly ballast about 50% and put NCRS on 5 to get it completely out of the way. With the belly full it lowers the bow and gets the "ski boat" part of the hull down in the water which washes the wake for whatever reason. I've also figured out that the boat is very sensitive to uneven weight side to side. I've learned to use the ballast shift to compensate if I can't get people in perfect spots.

            Figuring out how to get the wake board wake cleaned up has relieved my initial frustration with the plates extending. Overall we are extremely happy with the boat and it is now performing exactly how it is supposed to.
            Be patience, it will take approx one year before you will figure out all the settings and how that boat handles under a variety of situations.

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            • Adrenaline1
              • Jan 2018
              • 199

              • MI

              • 2019 GS22

              #21
              So would that be a computer update for improved stability on the 2019 GS22/24?

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              • OHLNautique
                • May 2008
                • 140

                • TN


                #22
                Originally posted by Adrenaline1 View Post
                So would that be a computer update for improved stability on the 2019 GS22/24?
                Yes it was a computer update but only the 2020 GS22's got it. Not sure if it could be added to the 19 GS22.

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                • Kmayotte
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 819

                  • Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

                  • 2016 G23, 1999 SN Python Past: 2004 SANTE, 1993 SN

                  #23
                  Sounds like you got some good info. I'd still love to see photos of the various wakes.

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                  • OHLNautique
                    • May 2008
                    • 140

                    • TN


                    #24
                    Originally posted by Kmayotte View Post
                    Sounds like you got some good info. I'd still love to see photos of the various wakes.
                    I'll try to get some pics over the next few days and upload them.

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                    • Tallredrider
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 1026

                      • St. George, Utah

                      • Red Metal Flake 2016 G23! Malibu 25 LSV 2019 2021 Centurion Ri237

                      #25
                      Watching the NSS blast water to both sides during wakeboarding as the gas gauge gets sucked down would be frustrating to me.

                      From a larger perspective, this seems like a fix for a poor hull. I don't think this sounds like an upgrade to the new model, more like a fix.

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                      • nautiquegeek
                        • Jul 2017
                        • 41

                        • West Coast


                        #26
                        Originally posted by OHLNautique View Post
                        I just got this email response from Nautique and they are calling me tomorrow to discuss.


                        "The NSS plates do deploy at higher speeds for better handling on the 2019 and 2020 GS24s and on the 2020 GS22s."
                        This is correct. They deploy out very slightly for stabilization and drivability. To my knowledge there is no updates available for a previous model year due to a different NSS and hull design. The amount the plate is deployed is very minimal.

                        With the advancements in dynamic on the fly hull changes via the NSS and NCRS; a hull designed to do one thing good, can now do many things good with the positives outweighing the negatives.
                        Last edited by nautiquegeek; 09-10-2019, 06:44 PM.

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                        • ST3
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 100

                          • Vermont


                          #27
                          Originally posted by nautiquegeek View Post

                          This is correct. They deploy out very slightly for stabilization and drivability. To my knowledge there is no updates available for a previous model year due to a different NSS and hull design. The amount the plate is deployed is very minimal.

                          With the advancements in dynamic on the fly hull changes via the NSS and NCRS; a hull designed to do one thing good, can now do many things good with the positives outweighing the negatives.
                          Can they be adjusted using the Pebble?



                          Sent from my iPhone using PLT Nautique

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                          • nautiquegeek
                            • Jul 2017
                            • 41

                            • West Coast


                            #28
                            Originally posted by ST3 View Post

                            Can they be adjusted using the Pebble?



                            Sent from my iPhone using PLT Nautique


                            There would be no reason to adjust the NSS at higher speeds other than the offered factory settings on 2020 boats. They deploy just enough for stability control and any other adjustments would be detrimental to the driving aspect of the boat.

                            Pebble was specified to adjust NSS only at wakesurf speeds. There will be no updates to my knowledge since it is a obsolescent device.

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                            • GMLIII
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 2799

                              • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

                              • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

                              #29
                              Originally posted by nautiquegeek View Post



                              There would be no reason to adjust the NSS at higher speeds other than the offered factory settings on 2020 boats. They deploy just enough for stability control and any other adjustments would be detrimental to the driving aspect of the boat.

                              Pebble was specified to adjust NSS only at wakesurf speeds. There will be no updates to my knowledge since it is a obsolescent device.
                              Side note unless the given boat has the Surf Select feature the Pebble watch is not going to function with the the NSS plates regardless of speed but one another note Pebble will not work on 2020 models because the Surf Select feature has moved from Pebble to Garmin anyway. So no Pebble will not work on any 2020 models period.
                              Last edited by GMLIII; 09-11-2019, 12:45 PM.

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                              • charlesml3
                                1,000 Post Club Member
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 2456

                                • Lake Gaston, NC

                                • 2022 G23

                                #30
                                Originally posted by ST3 View Post

                                Can they be adjusted using the Pebble?



                                Sent from my iPhone using PLT Nautique
                                No. The Pebble cannot do anything that can't be done from the LINC. All the Pebble does is let you press buttons on the LINC from behind the boat. Nothing more.

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