Originally posted by Kmayotte
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First thing...I know basically nothing about the boat market and am new to boating just this season. So i'm likely waaaay off.... But after reading the comments and potential prices it makes me wonder if Correct craft might be trying to take Nautique upscale and compete with the likes of Pavati. They have a lot of boat companys and could keep other brands in the entry and mid level markets.
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I dont think “anyone” in the actual wake boat market thinks Pavati is in an upscale item.Nor would any brand want to compete in whatever zone Pavati could be considered in.
Aside Nautique has the price range of the 210, which is probably msrp 80 something to the g25 currently 225. Adding a surf 280 sounds like just like another thing to have if someone wants it... and makes the prices of the others sound not so bad from a market perspective.Last edited by 99bison; 09-13-2019, 11:41 AM.
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Originally posted by greggmck View PostIt's not really about how big the wave is, but about length, push and shape. Skim riders want a flatter rampy wave. A better skim wave can be found on other boats (Centurion and Malibu) come to mind. Nautique has been loosing this market opportunity for years. In addition surfers have to add weight and reduce NCRS to flatten the wave yet increase push and length. Nautique hasn't changed the ballast and surf system in 5+ years. It's time for an update. Where will it end? When the market no longer supports the boat.
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im sure any new boat will once again change everything like when the first G was released.
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Originally posted by surfnjosh View Post
I think its about the adjustability of the wave. that's where the G is lacking. the Ri is so adjustable its ridiculous, im blown away nautique hasn't done something to improve that since 2013 even. In my opinion the nautique surf system is the least adjustable of any of the major brands. the trim tabs just seem to make a way bigger effect. that said the G still produces one of the best waves when its dialed and its my boat of choice. Ri 257 beats it in terms of surf wave by every aspect, but every other aspect of a boat the Nautique is hands down at the top and for normal people the easiest to setup, fill stock ballast full nss0 ncrs 5 and go …
im sure any new boat will once again change everything like when the first G was released.
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Originally posted by 99bison View PostI dont think “anyone” in the actual wake boat market thinks Pavati is in an upscale item.Nor would any brand want to compete in whatever zone Pavati could be considered in.
Aside Nautique has the price range of the 210, which is probably msrp 80 something to the g25 currently 225. Adding a surf 280 sounds like just like another thing to have if someone wants it... and makes the prices of the others sound not so bad from a market perspective.
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I was told it’s gonna be called the paragon as well. Batteries right now are expensive. With technology advancement battery prices will come down. I think it’s an incredibly small market and i don’t think nautique is planning to sell a lot. I’m telling you. This is just for r&d. Didn’t they acquire an electric company not to long ago?
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Originally posted by Yeaitsslo View PostI was told it’s gonna be called the paragon as well. Batteries right now are expensive. With technology advancement battery prices will come down. I think it’s an incredibly small market and i don’t think nautique is planning to sell a lot. I’m telling you. This is just for r&d. Didn’t they acquire an electric company not to long ago?
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