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  • GMLIII
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • May 2013
    • 2792

    • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

    • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

    Originally posted by RDT-G23 View Post
    I'm 200 miles away from my P23, and was wondering what prop they put on the boat. Do any P23 owners know? I'm told it is definitely different from what is used on the G23/25.
    I thought both the prop and rudder were much larger than the G23/G25

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    • RDT-G23
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Jun 2017
      • 585

      • TEXAS

      • 2020 G23 PARAGON I 2017 G23(sold)

      Originally posted by GMLIII View Post

      I thought both the prop and rudder were much larger than the G23/G25
      Agree. I'm just on the hunt for the model number for the prop. I still have a pristine extra (the original/never damaged in the slightest) prop for my departed G23 (and want to figure out how to get equity out of it to apply to a new extra prop fro the Paragon.) I actually had changed props on the G23 to drop RPMs by about 250-300RPM; I loved it. As a result, the prop I have is the original that came with that boat.

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      • memerr
        • Apr 2017
        • 20

        • Indiana

        • 2020 G23 Paragon ZZ8 2003 SANTE 210 Python (sold)

        Originally posted by RDT-G23 View Post
        I'm 200 miles away from my P23, and was wondering what prop they put on the boat. Do any P23 owners know? I'm told it is definitely different from what is used on the G23/25.
        My P23 arrived at the dealer yesterday afternoon. I went by today to set eyes on it for the first time. For those P23 buyers that have the LSA/XR7 motor, I was told the prop is the same as current G23/G25 boats 17x17 with 2:1 transmission. However, RDT-G23 and others that have the LT4/ZZ8 motor, the prop is now an 18x13.5. This is different because of the additional power and resulting in a transmission of 1.5:1. Attached are two pictures of the prop that came with my P23 that is not yet installed.

        I hope this redeems me from my earlier post listing an incorrect P23 trailering height.

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        • memerr
          • Apr 2017
          • 20

          • Indiana

          • 2020 G23 Paragon ZZ8 2003 SANTE 210 Python (sold)

          This picture didn't show up when I looked on my phone app but does when viewing on laptop. Here is prop info if this picture doesn't load. Prop 3563 18x13.5 1-1/4".

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          • MG94
            • Oct 2019
            • 147

            • Il

            • G23

            Originally posted by memerr View Post

            My P23 arrived at the dealer yesterday afternoon. I went by today to set eyes on it for the first time. For those P23 buyers that have the LSA/XR7 motor, I was told the prop is the same as current G23/G25 boats 17x17 with 2:1 transmission. However, RDT-G23 and others that have the LT4/ZZ8 motor, the prop is now an 18x13.5. This is different because of the additional power and resulting in a transmission of 1.5:1. Attached are two pictures of the prop that came with my P23 that is not yet installed.

            I hope this redeems me from my earlier post listing an incorrect P23 trailering height.

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            Thanks for the update. It confirms what I was told about mine as I took my spare prop with me on the trip but never looked at them. Also forgot about the motor swap since I was so excited to be on the boat. The 550 worked great other then realizing that it’s a pain to find premium. We are spoiled on our lake that everything was already premium but that was not the case in South Carolina.


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            • RDT-G23
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Jun 2017
              • 585

              • TEXAS

              • 2020 G23 PARAGON I 2017 G23(sold)

              Originally posted by memerr View Post
              This picture didn't show up when I looked on my phone app but does when viewing on laptop. Here is prop info if this picture doesn't load. Prop 3563 18x13.5 1-1/4". Click image for larger version

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              I sure love this forum, and appreciate you sharing! Great and timely information!

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              • RDT-G23
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Jun 2017
                • 585

                • TEXAS

                • 2020 G23 PARAGON I 2017 G23(sold)

                We all understand that the prop shaft failures on Gs over the years had much to do with improper manufacturing versus the prop shaft diameter. That said, I hope the more substantial prop shaft on the Paragon further protects against the same issue. (Frankly, I always had this potential failure in the back of my mind with my G23 when further away from my lakehouse/at times when I was on the lake with few others...)

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                • GMLIII
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • May 2013
                  • 2792

                  • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

                  • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

                  Originally posted by RDT-G23 View Post
                  We all understand that the prop shaft failures on Gs over the years had much to do with improper manufacturing versus the prop shaft diameter. That said, I hope the more substantial prop shaft on the Paragon further protects against the same issue. (Frankly, I always had this potential failure in the back of my mind with my G23 when further away from my lakehouse/at times when I was on the lake with few others...)
                  That is why you should invest in a Seatow membership if you have not already done so. Best protection investment I have ever made. I purchased it about a month before my shaft broke whereby Seatow towed my boat to the dealer which took approx 3 1/2 hours for the tow. Your fee may be different then mine in Virginia but an annual membership for inland waters only cost $118.00 per year. If I didn't have Seatow that tow would have cost me around $600.00
                  Last edited by GMLIII; 03-21-2020, 09:31 AM.

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                  • RDT-G23
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 585

                    • TEXAS

                    • 2020 G23 PARAGON I 2017 G23(sold)

                    Originally posted by GMLIII View Post

                    That is why you should invest in a Seatow membership if you have not already done so. Best protection investment I have ever made. I purchased it about a month before my shaft broke whereby Seatow towed my boat to the dealer which took approx 3 1/2 hours for the tow. Your fee may be different then mine in Virginia but and annual membership for inland waters only cost $118.00 per year. If I didn't have Seatow that tow would have cost me around $600.00
                    Probably a good investment; it sure was in your case!

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                    • RDT-G23
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Jun 2017
                      • 585

                      • TEXAS

                      • 2020 G23 PARAGON I 2017 G23(sold)

                      I took the proceeds from the sale of the spare prop for my G23 and paid the delta to get a spare prop for the Paragon (Acme 3563). I have my fingers crossed that it will fit in the cushioned "weekend saver bag/kit). It says the bag is good up to an 18" prop, but I can say that 17" prop in it had little room...

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                      • MG94
                        • Oct 2019
                        • 147

                        • Il

                        • G23

                        How is the new motor? I completely forgot about it after taking mine out. The 550 seemed to have plenty of power for the weight. It was definitely better then my 450 in the G23


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                        • RDT-G23
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Jun 2017
                          • 585

                          • TEXAS

                          • 2020 G23 PARAGON I 2017 G23(sold)

                          Honestly, I haven't even driven it yet. It is getting ceramic coated, light tint on the windshield, trailer clear bra'd in places. I took delivery from the dealer about a month ago, put it in storage-waiting for good weather to bring it back to Houston to get the aforementioned stuff done before even putting it in the water; this virus stuff has slowed things a bit as well. The dealer, for what it is worth, (when "shaking it down") "raved" about it-said it was quite noticable. It has 2.6 hours on it, none with me in the driver seat. I hope to have it done this week and take it back to the lake next weekend (weather permitting)... Long answer, I know...

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                          • MG94
                            • Oct 2019
                            • 147

                            • Il

                            • G23

                            We finally got ours out up north on Friday. It has been hard to find a day above mid 50’s without a lot of wind. Friday was 65 and 5-10mph winds so we got some wakeboarding in. I’m not sure there would ever be an off season for me if I lived down south.


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                            • memerr
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 20

                              • Indiana

                              • 2020 G23 Paragon ZZ8 2003 SANTE 210 Python (sold)

                              Stay tuned. My dealer, N3 Boatworks in Indianapolis took mine which is the ZZ8 and their stock XR7 to compare side by side. Video should post any day. I wasn’t there but was told it took the XR7 off the line and beat it to 23.7 mph until PP took over. Both fully ballasted. I’ll let you know when video posts.


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                              • RDT-G23
                                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                                • Jun 2017
                                • 585

                                • TEXAS

                                • 2020 G23 PARAGON I 2017 G23(sold)

                                Originally posted by memerr View Post
                                Stay tuned. My dealer, N3 Boatworks in Indianapolis took mine which is the ZZ8 and their stock XR7 to compare side by side. Video should post any day. I wasn’t there but was told it took the XR7 off the line and beat it to 23.7 mph until PP took over. Both fully ballasted. I’ll let you know when video posts.


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                                I think they posted the first installation of this feature, but not yet the video with the ZZ8 against the XR7...

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