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  • Nautiquehunter
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 2080

    • Flowery Branch GA Lake Lanier

    • 2008 210 SANTE 67 Correct Craft Mustang

    #16
    Originally posted by funkster View Post
    Nautiquehunter, your “surf ship” description is rather comical. For any boarder to complain about tearing up water is hilarious. I’’m sure you’’ve pissed off many fisherman, leisure boaters, kayakers and skiers with your wake ship. Back in my younger days I used to fume over tubers and jet skiers tearing up “my water”, man that was such a waste of energy. I try as hard as I can not to surf on the small lake that is 1 mile from my house, however, sometimes it’s either go to that lake or not go at all. The other very large lake I frequent in roughly an hour away and sometimes it’s not even an option. I say be mindful of your wake and show curtesy to the other people using OUR lakes. Besides that, there is nothing more you can really do.

    BTW, the small like I frequent has speed limit. You can only go over 8MPH from 8AM-6PM. I feel this gives everyone ample opportunity to use the public lake.


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    I own 5 boats one of them is a 08 210 . I specificity bought it to surf in 08. After 10 years we do very little surfing . I hate driving surfers very boring for the driver and uses a lot of gas . I have a 92 Supra comp we take out most of the time for skiing and air chair and of coarse the pontoon for BBQ and relaxing.

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    • functionoverfashion
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Jun 2017
      • 509

      • New Hampshire

      • 2003 SANTE

      #17
      Originally posted by funkster View Post

      Also there are many studies showing that wakeboats do no more erosion damage than nature.
      I bet the New Hampshire study group would love to see these, do you have more info? Links?

      I know Kmayotte is following this closely, too. You could post the info on the facebook page also, if you want to take it off this thread.


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      • azeus17
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Feb 2008
        • 387

        • Grand Rapids, MI

        • 2022 GS22 - Coming in July Previous Boats: 1989 Sport Nautique 2002 SANTE

        #18
        I live on a small, 250ish acre private lake. There is only one area on the lake that is suitable for surfing due to water depth and my house happens to be right at the turn around area. I can tell you for sure that mother nature has nothing on the surf boats. It's just not possible for wind to kick up that size of waves on the small lake. I don't surf, but in general don't mind when others do. However, the guys out there when the water is super high, or the ones that keep making passes non-stop do kind of get my blood boiling. I'd be lying if I said I have not thought about jumping in my boat and going down in front of their houses and making a bunch of 10 mph passes, just so they have an idea of the damage they cause.

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        • Phil8uga
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Oct 2016
          • 381

          • Georgia

          • 1998 Air Nautique sold 2012 2005SANTE210 sold 2019 2019 GS20 H6

          #19
          Agreed Azues I invite any surf boat owner over to my dock and let them sit with me on my dock and see what they say after hours of pounding surf waves. It’s not the one wake it’s the constant pounding of wakes. Now that I own a surf vessel and a dock I am much more considerate with my wake. Almost to the point where I don’t surf as much any more.


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          • Kmayotte
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Apr 2010
            • 819

            • Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

            • 2016 G23, 1999 SN Python Past: 2004 SANTE, 1993 SN

            #20
            Originally posted by functionoverfashion View Post

            I bet the New Hampshire study group would love to see these, do you have more info? Links?

            I know Kmayotte is following this closely, too. You could post the info on the facebook page also, if you want to take it off this thread.

            I would be interested in seeing these too. Please provide any info you can.

            And yes following closely. I've been to every meeting of the committee so far. I have a call scheduled tomorrow with the lobbyist working on behalf of the marine trades association.

            steakNshake we should connect. I sent you a PM.
            Last edited by Kmayotte; 10-24-2019, 12:14 PM.

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            • F725
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Feb 2013
              • 381

              • Minnesota

              • 2018 G21

              #21
              I am also on a small lake. We have the only wakeboat on the lake and in the past I've made some enemies by getting to close to shore. I've change my habits a few years ago as soon as I heard some grumbling from others on our lake and in the community. I now only boat in the middle of the lake or at least 200 ft from shore and avoid the areas where the houses are close to the water. Our lake is one which the water level in the 60's was real real low and people built up homes, the water is now at it's normal level and is almost at a few cabins doorsteps. Where I used to frequent their shoreline in the past to avoid the wind, I now stay well clear of their area and am mindful of where I'm sending wakes / waves.

              I joined our Lake Association this year and attended the summer picnic hoping to field some comments, questions and have civil discussions. I did have good conversations with those present but unfortunately the people who dislike me the most are also those who dislike everyone else on the lake... so they have their own picnic and only invite those they like. Go figure.

              The president of our lake association has had his son in our summer wake programs for youth so he is on our side and has spoke up for us during previous years meetings.

              Best to understand how big your wakes and waves are, where they are going and avoid other boats and pontoons when possible.

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              • homer12
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Feb 2016
                • 584

                • Indianapolis, IN

                • 2004 SV211 TE

                #22
                It seems to me that most that use their boats as designed are generally the most courteous. On our 330 acre private lake it seems like many people own and use nice wakeboard to pull tubes. They throw some decent size wakes just to pull tubes. That isn’t helping the situation of chopping up the lake...


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                • XBIGPUN66
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 456

                  • WI

                  • 2014 SAN 210 TE. NSS. Pro ballast.

                  #23
                  Must be the pro tube edition boats. We have them in Madison also.

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                  Ian S
                  2014 SANTE. NSS. Pro balllast. Boatmate trailer
                  2004 SANTE. 4000 lb ballast, 2013 graphics (prev). Ramlin trailer
                  2009 Moomba Outback (prev). Boatmate trailer

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                  • jjackkrash
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • May 2007
                    • 498

                    • PacNW

                    • 2021 Ski

                    #24
                    Being polite is nice and all, but when Godzilla rolls through downtown Tokyo, even if he sticks to the middle of town, only knocks down buildings between 10 am and 4 pm, and tries not to disturb the hospitals and subways, some people are still gonna think he's just not a good fit for the City.
                    Last edited by jjackkrash; 10-28-2019, 12:23 PM.

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                    • Nautiquehunter
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 2080

                      • Flowery Branch GA Lake Lanier

                      • 2008 210 SANTE 67 Correct Craft Mustang

                      #25
                      Maybe you should consider this YOU CAN'T PUT A 8-12000 POUND BOAT ON A SMALL LAKE AND MAKE FRIENDS.

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                      • scottb7
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 2198

                        • Carson City, Nevada

                        • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Nautiquehunter View Post
                        Maybe you should consider this YOU CAN'T PUT A 8-12000 POUND BOAT ON A SMALL LAKE AND MAKE FRIENDS.
                        Yeah, your probably right. On my 280 acre lake it is probably 5,000 lbs = not gonna be your friend.

                        Although honestly I think it is more what you do. Surfing with it's huge slow rollers for hours, I think that is what brought the more pervasive attention to the issue.

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                        • Cadesun
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 98

                          • Lake Geneva, WI

                          • 2013 SAN 210 TE,,, 1998 Super Sport - sold

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Nautiquehunter View Post
                          Maybe you should consider this YOU CAN'T PUT A 8-12000 POUND BOAT ON A SMALL LAKE AND MAKE FRIENDS.
                          You may be right. My 210 is probably the largest/heaviest wakeboat on our lake and I haven't gotten any complaints, however, if I showed up in a G23 there would probably be some issues. Their surf wakes are apples and oranges just like their dry weights.

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