Towing a G23 with a Ford Raptor

[RDT-G23]

If it doesn't have 8 lugs its a car with a bed not a truck. Towing heavy with a V6 is never a good idea .

Now this, this is some funny doggone stuff, but so very true...

[Infinity]

To echo the above, the engine is in no way the weak link in this setup...The 3.5 L Ecoboost V6 in that application is 450 hp and 510 lbs-ft of torque. It’s a beast. The rumblings you’ve heard about a V8 in the raptor are likely regarding putting the supercharged 5.2L V8 from the Shelby GT 500 into the raptor for a limited production run. Rumors are over 700 hp in this application. Again, not a change that will improve towing. Just making a fast truck faster.


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I saw pics/video of the Shelby Edition Ford Truck a few days ago, has a 755HP badge. Great looking truck!!!

In 2018, I bought a 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 rated at 1540 payload & 11,500 towing (3.92 gears). The coil springs are soft which gives it an awesome ride without a trailer but sagged a bit with my 24ft boat. Even tho it towed great stock and never felt like an issue (15" brake rotors are awesome) to be sure I added the Timbren bump stops and I now get only 1" sag, its much firmer and tows even better, the truck just feels a bit more stable and tracks super straight.. I will say that with the Timbren stops the ride is good when the boat or one of my other trailers is hooked up BUT the unloaded ride is noticeably rougher now....so much so that I will likely remove the Timbren stops in the Spring and install air bags. The rougher ride and much higher cost is why I did not want a 3/4 ton even tho there is no doubt it would tow much better...plus the boat is the only heavy thing I pull and since this truck keeps me legal when pulling the boat as long as I am not adding a ton of weight to my payload, it seemed like the right option for me. So far no regrets, been a reliable truck that has a super comfortable interior with all the options I could want (except air suspension, lol).

[jjackkrash]

It would be nice to see some actual front-axle measured weights on these trucks, first unloaded and then loaded, to see how much weight you folks are pulling off the steer axle of the truck when you hook up a G23 (which is why these trucks have carry-weight ratings on the hitch). Things like bump stops and airbags help level the truck, but they don't put weight back on the steer axle, which reduces the front-tire friction needed for braking and emergency steering situations. In any event, please be careful on sweeping downhills like mountain passes and wet conditions and try and get the trailer as level as possible to improve handling. Slowing down when you are overloaded helps as well.

[DocPhil]

I tow a G23 with a raptor but added Timbren SES in the rear. Helps with sag. Longest I tow is 1-2 hours a couple times a year.

If I towed long distances frequently I would probably get a 3/4 ton

[MG94]

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[cedarcreek216]

Doesn't tongue weight play a huge roll in all of this? Theoretically the tongue weight, or lack there of, will ultimately lead to front axle weight being where it needs to be. If the trailer is weighted and balanced correctly, should we see minimal effects on the tow vehicle regardless the weight of the package being towed? Isn't 700 lbs of tongue weight 700 lbs of tongue weight, 1500 pound load or 7500 pound load?

[jjackkrash]

A conventional trailer should have around 12% of the weight on the tongue (10% min), although some claim you need a lot less with a trip-axle tailer (I am not convinced however). Less than 10% and you are asking for wigwag and other trailering instability problems. If your boat weighs 10,000 lbs, you want 1000-1200 lbs. on the the tongue, which is more than a lot of 1/2 tons are rated for (mostly because this much tongue weight takes too much weight off the steer axle), especially if you don't use a weight-distribution hitch (most don't on boats). See video, for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jk9H5AB4lM

[cedarcreek216]

Is the common thought the G23 is at 10k on a trailer? With a full fuel tank and trailer weight I am getting 7900. Honest question, do we really accumulate 2000 pounds of "stuff" on our boats? I just unloaded our 210 to take to the dealer for trade and at the end I felt like it for sure, but I assume it was probably close to 500 pounds of gear. I felt much better towing the G23 this past summer than I did my 210 mainly because I felt the trailer on the G handled more of the G load that my truck did. All just casual conversation, no hard facts or anything so don't want to start an argument as this has been beat to death in another thread.

[jjackkrash]

I personally don't know what they weigh; I used 10,000 as a round number example. If your boat weighs 8k running down the road, you want 800-1000 lbs. of tongue weight on it. Whether that exceeds your trucks towing limits depends on the specific truck and how its set up and also how much gear and peeps you are also packing in your truck.

[RDT-G23]

Is the common thought the G23 is at 10k on a trailer? With a full fuel tank and trailer weight I am getting 7900. Honest question, do we really accumulate 2000 pounds of "stuff" on our boats? I just unloaded our 210 to take to the dealer for trade and at the end I felt like it for sure, but I assume it was probably close to 500 pounds of gear. I felt much better towing the G23 this past summer than I did my 210 mainly because I felt the trailer on the G handled more of the G load that my truck did. All just casual conversation, no hard facts or anything so don't want to start an argument as this has been beat to death in another thread.

A G23 is about 8K on a tandem axle trailer. The new Paragon I have coming on a triple axle will be all over the 10K number. That said, I’ll be towing it with my new tow machine, a 2020 F250 with 475HP/1050ft.lbs.TQ (I just had to type those specs; it felt good.)