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  • Flux
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jul 2003
    • 408

    • Palmdale, Ca.


    #16
    RE: CC Website

    I see your point and it's well stated.

    I think it's more about their poorly guided aesthetics and cutting a corner instead of offering options. A short list of everyone I can think of offering colored decks:

    Mastercraft
    Tige
    Malibu
    Supra (offers an accent above the rail and has some special editions)
    Centurian (has a colored deck package)
    Epic
    MB Sports

    Hmmmm. Seems to be just about every boat company that produces a reasonable inboard has some sort of colored deck or accent option above the rail.

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    • darrel409
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Jul 2004
      • 566

      • San Dimas, So. Cal


      #17
      RE: CC Website

      Flux, I completly agree with you about the old school FCT and Teak platform, slowly killing off their tradition of heritage.

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      • jon4pres
        • Aug 2005
        • 189



        #18
        RE: CC Website

        They are not killing their heritage by changing design. That is what happens over time. An 89 Nautique does not look like a 90 Nautique but both are great boats. At some point change has to happen because I dont think anyone would buy a 2006 correct craft boat if they stuck to their heritage and they still looked and performed exactly like a 79 nautique.

        There heritage is building great quality, high performance tow boats. NOT having teak platforms and old school FCT towers.

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        • bkhallpass
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Apr 2005
          • 1407

          • Discovery Bay, CA

          • 2001 Super Air Nautique (Current) 1998 Ski Nautique (former) 1982 Ski Nautique (Current)

          #19
          RE: Re: RE: CC Website

          Personally, I like white decks, so the colored deck thing is no big deal to me. However, I would guess that fading decks ruining a reputation for quality, is not the issue. Throughout the 60s, and into the seventies, CC put colored decks on hulls. Many of these are now old and faded. However, they were also the boats upon which the reputation for quality was born (at least in the fiberglass era). BKH
          2001 Super Air

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          • wake_fun
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Jul 2003
            • 1330

            • CA

            • 1995 Super Sport

            #20
            Re: RE: CC Website

            Originally posted by NautiqueJeff
            It is there. Look under the crossover boats.
            Very weird. I kept trying it and it never showed. Must have to delete my cookies or something. I typed in www.skinautique.com to get to the site and then it worked............... :???:
            Photo Album
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            • Flux
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Jul 2003
              • 408

              • Palmdale, Ca.


              #21
              RE: Re: RE: CC Website

              I want these graphics on a 210, put the air logo where it says ski nautique and the board and star thingie with the callout where it says 2001.

              http://www.planetnautique.com/module...6__medium_.jpg

              The teak harkens to the original ski platforms as well as wooden hulled inboard boats. It's a small item that pays homage to it's predecessors and the craft/art of building boats.

              The old school FCT was the first tower of Consequence in the entire industry, it's industrial look and shape is absolutely recognized throughout the wakeboat world and is an extremely respected design. Easily as recognizable as the air logo, IT'S AN ICON.

              These are details that help define the boat, there is no reason at all they cannot be offered as options, unless it's a corner cutting cost issue to simplify production and inventory.

              I recently purchased my first new vehicle ever. A nice fat diesel truck for hauling and getting the **** out of town. If all I gave a crap about was the engine/tranny/drivetrain, etc I would have gone to fleet sales and bought a work truck for alot less than I paid. What I got is looks, comfort, and the design tradition of the Ford F250 all in one package, and trust me when I say I paid for it. Had Ford not offered the look I wanted, GMC or Dodge might have gotten my business. One look you know it's a Ford, it's just that way, they have been around a while.

              Changing design is necessary, but it should be a careful well thought out process. Currently I think CC is trying to expand their line of boats to more closely resemble the other manufacturers and offer more diversity. Good plan, but their aesthetic is suffering. Hopefully they will then go back and work out some of these details. Just offer the customer options other than tower speakers and a subwoofer, they will thank you with their wallets.

              These are just my opinions, but there are more than a few that I know that share them. I don't want to be contreversial, but when I looked for a boat in 04, it was CC or nothing. If I was buying a new boat today, MC would get a really hard look from me.

              IMO- Their heritage is DESIGNING and building great quality, high performance to boats.

              If design details have no place in their heritage, then why did they go retro on the Ski Series?? Which I think were their nicest looking boats this year, btw.

              In 30 yrs I will be old and faded just like my boat, I am just fine with that.

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              • ag4ever
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Feb 2004
                • 1180



                #22
                RE: Re: RE: CC Website

                It is good to know I was not the only one that thought the "we are worried about fading" excuse was hokie.

                I have seen numerous 2001's around with colored decks.

                I have a white deck, but was about to buy a grey/black boat that had a grey deck. if the seats were not grey, and if did not live in Texas where we cook by sun power, I would have. The colored decks just look so much better.

                Besides, i bet 90% of us keep our boat in a garage or other covered, protected shelter 99% of the time.

                Mine is in the sun about 80 hours a year, and that is it. How does it fade if not exposed to the sun.

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                • jon4pres
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 189



                  #23
                  RE: Re: RE: CC Website

                  Flux, I agree with you I like the old style too but Correct Craft is not going to lose their heritage by changing their design. If they would have been afraid of change they would not have been the first to add a tower. I dont know why they put teak platforms on boats but I seriously doubt it was to pay homage to wooden boats. Before they had teak platforms they had metal latters on fiberglass boats.

                  I think options are the key. With options you can make everyone happy. Make a colored deck an option and price it right, if you do have some warranty issues you will have it covored. The old FCT could be a standard tower and make the new one an option. It is just an excuse to me to charge more more money.

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                  • bkhallpass
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 1407

                    • Discovery Bay, CA

                    • 2001 Super Air Nautique (Current) 1998 Ski Nautique (former) 1982 Ski Nautique (Current)

                    #24
                    Re: RE: Re: RE: CC Website

                    Originally posted by jon4pres
                    I think options are the key. With options you can make everyone happy. Make a colored deck an option and price it right, if you do have some warranty issues you will have it covored. The old FCT could be a standard tower and make the new one an option. It is just an excuse to me to charge more more money.
                    Not sure I follow you here Jon. If you are saying that providing more options will provide CC the opportunity to charge more money, then I agree with you. If you are saying that CC does not offer options as an "excuse" to charge more money, then I don't think I agree.

                    At the end of the day, the volume on these boats is not that large. The more options offered, the smaller the lot size for each option, and therefore the higher the price for each option. More options are going to equal higher prices across the board.

                    BKH
                    2001 Super Air

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                    • darrel409
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 566

                      • San Dimas, So. Cal


                      #25
                      Re: RE: CC Website

                      [quote="jon4pres"] An 89 Nautique does not look like a 90 Nautique but both are great boats. At some point change has to happen because I dont think anyone would buy a 2006 correct craft boat if they stuck to their heritage and they still looked and performed exactly like a 79 nautique.

                      If Correct Craft dusted off a few of their old molds and popped out a few 89 2001 series Ski Nautiques with a GT40, FCT and wooden platform i think they would sell pretty quick, as long as the price wasnt $40K. :razz: :razz:

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                      • jon4pres
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 189



                        #26
                        I am just saying that I would think that these options could be attainble but for them to actually happen CC is going to have to pass that cost down to the customer.
                        If they are worried about fading top decks than they need to figure fixing a few into the cost of the option in order for them to make money.

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                        • bkhallpass
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 1407

                          • Discovery Bay, CA

                          • 2001 Super Air Nautique (Current) 1998 Ski Nautique (former) 1982 Ski Nautique (Current)

                          #27
                          Got it Jon, we're on the same page. BKH
                          2001 Super Air

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