2021 230 vs 2018 210 for surfing

[tmb]

Finally got a dedicated ski boat so considering upgrading from a 2018 210 to a new 230. This boat would primarily used for surfing. Is the make considerably better on the 230? I have 750’s plumbed on top of the hard ranks in my 210.

[charlesml3]

I'm not really sure what you're asking here. Both surf like mad, but require additional ballast beyond factory. Both surf LONG compared to the G.

-Charles

[surfnjosh]

Finally got a dedicated ski boat so considering upgrading from a 2018 210 to a new 230. This boat would primarily used for surfing. Is the make considerably better on the 230? I have 750’s plumbed on top of the hard ranks in my 210.

its going to be a bit better for sure, considerable yes, night and day, no
The 230 responds very well IMO to extra nose weight as well when you have the rear compartments FULL of water ballast.

[tmb]

I'm not really sure what you're asking here. Both surf like mad, but require additional ballast beyond factory. Both surf LONG compared to the G.

-Charles

Is the 230 wave longer and have more push than a 210 wave when both have additional weight so they are creating their peak wave?

[charlesml3]

Is the 230 wave longer and have more push than a 210 wave when both have additional weight so they are creating their peak wave?

Somewhat, yes. The beauty of both of these boats is they produce a long, clean wake with almost no roostertail in the middle. I surf both the 210 and 230 regularly. As well as the G23 and G21. They all have their thing they do well. The Gs produce a hard, steep wake. The 2x0 is more about clean and long.

-Charles

[mooneywa]

I had a 2015 210 and now a 2020 230, both with upgraded ballast. I am a big guy and I can surf much more easily and, separately, further back on the 230 than I could on the 210. My wife who is 100lbs smaller does not necessarily know the difference. The 210 was finicky about loading the front of the boat with ballast whereas the 230 does need added weight but not in the nose. I am not a marine engineer, but the added length of the boat on the 230 seems to put more of the hull in the water where an upgraded ballast 210 would ride almost like a wheelie without proper weighting. The lack of ballast in the nose (210) and being able to put it around the observer's seat (230) has an added safety benefit of reducing the chance of dipping the nose.

If you are upgrading purely for added surfability, that would be a tough sell. If you're upgrading because of the added surfability, (in my case) LINC panoray and various other small upgrades, more space, ability to order for your own colors, and better ride in chop with the extra length, then I'd say go for it.

My 210 was an intro to wake-boating. I had no plans to upgrade to my 230, but the opportunity came along and I'm really really glad I did it.

[tmb]

Kind of disappointed in the feedback. I surfed a buddies 23 lsv and it was night and day VS my 210. Now the fit, finish, bow rise, and noise were a different story but from a strictly wave performance, the lsv was awesome. I was hoping to hear the same about the 230 as they should be comparable boats.

[swatguy]

The 23lsv is a pretty good benchmark for an upgrade. That wave is one of the tops in its class. Recently going through the same predicament in looking for bit better surf wake for an upgrade and I spend lot of time in a 23lsv. The wake performance is on par for sure. Fuel burn with the wedge is a huge factor tho. One of the reasons I didn’t pull the trigger on an LSV I had an opportunity on.


the pocket on the 230 is longer and further back , but I don’t know it’s a substantial difference to make you go wow in my opinion of the 210.

Also surfer Centrurion RI. And that was a wow factor too.

[tmb]

The 23lsv is a pretty good benchmark for an upgrade. That wave is one of the tops in its class. Recently going through the same predicament in looking for bit better surf wake for an upgrade and I spend lot of time in a 23lsv. The wake performance is on par for sure. Fuel burn with the wedge is a huge factor tho. One of the reasons I didn’t pull the trigger on an LSV I had an opportunity on.


the pocket on the 230 is longer and further back , but I don’t know it’s a substantial difference to make you go wow in my opinion of the 210.

Also surfer Centrurion RI. And that was a wow factor too.

How did you think the 230 compared to the lsv?