CC 211 vs Tige 22VE

[Erik]

Erik I assume you meant that the pros didn't like the wakeboard wake? Is their another reason other than the wakeboard wake that you would stay away from Tige?

The WAKEBOARDING wake was laughable. I bet the slalom wake behind that 21v Riders edition was great though (irony fans, enjoy that one). And my 2001, unweighted, kicked the wake it made in the balls.

The tower rattled to beat the band.

The upholstery was ripping on a 2 year old boat.

The gelcoat was cracking beneath the tower feet.

It handled like a barge, and as opposed to barge-like handling of my SS/SAN, the bow on the Tige seemed to be endlessly pointing skyward. At least the SS hull planes out at wakeboarding speed.

Issues with some of the expensive, non-warranty covered electronic components of the Mercruiser powerplant had the boat being towed back a depressingly large amount. It felt very breakable.

I could go on. I dislike the Tige product. The company's 24 footer is a step in the right direction but I would avoid that 21-22 footer.

[ctcranor]

Gee Erik, how do you really feel?

As I did not look at a CC and only at Tige, Mastercraft and Malibu, I won't waste your time belittling the others. Tige is a incredible well built boat with a TAPS system that works flawlessly (no Erik, it is not hydrolic, it is electric driven) every time. There are NO tower rattles, a phenomenal ski and wakeboard wake and it takes rough water just like any other ski boat. Of course if you want to be out in rough water, you wouldn't own a ski boat, would you?

Granted I only have a 20V but I would put it up against anything out there......

Erik, the ONLY crossover boat-give me a break.

[Erik]

ctcranor, what do you mean by "Erik, the ONLY crossover boat-give me a break." I don't know what you were referring to there.

[WilliamWallace]

clubmyke,

You are really in Maui right? Are those 211 wakes?

[clubmyke]

wallace,

i am in so cal... that is my 211 surf wake... i really like the 211 alot (owner bias)...

-wakeboard wake is very, very good (more rampy and less kick than a 210)
-surfboard wake is world class imo, i havent been behnd a weighted enzo but i have many other boats and i am quite partial to my 211...
-ski (no idea but i heard it is "just okay")

[boatech]

the best way to know for sure is to drive them. the tige will hands down out handle and ride better.no inboard ski boat takes chop/ruff water better than tige. the wakes on both boats are great. i find the tige much more adjustable. as for resale value the deprectiation is equal % wise. tige has really come along way in the last 3-5 yrs. you would be making a huge mistake by not giving them a hard look. and no i dont own a tige now but i know people who do an when its time for my next boat it more than likley will be. rz2 is bad boy!!!!! i have driven one and it is top notch!!

[boysrus]

I can't speak for the newer Tige's, but I had a '97 21i before my nautique and it wasn't in the same league.

It had a decent wake for slalom (certainly better than a lot boats out there) and the TAPs was an easy system to use. The best thing about the boat (besides the cool lines) was the top speed available by pulling the TAPs system all the way up. Awesome for barefooting!

I was dissapointed, however, in how it was starting to look after 5 seasons and +/-500 hours. The gelcoat had spider cracks in numerous places, and the driver's and watcher's seats were starting to tear at the seams. It also felt 'loose' in choppy water. I could feel the dash and windshield flex as I went through rough water and that just didn't seem right to me. I was looking to get 10 years out of the boat, and it just didn't look like it was going to make it and be worth anything at the end.

I now have nearly the same 500 hours and 5 seasons on my nautique and life is good - not a single gelcoat crack, still tight and rigid like a closed bow, and the upholstery still looks new (other than the ouches I've caused). The ski wakes are awesome and it tracks like nothing out there. In fact, I'm not sure my wife would drive the Tige through the course after having the nautique.

For Tige's sake, I hope the new ones are better. They have some great looking boats and the interior layout is cool.

Good luck on your decision!

[tdc_worm]

I am gonna preface this with "I am way too analytical and I type way too much"

i won't speak to tige's past quality as i think enough opinions have been posted. also, i wont speak specifically to the 211, since it has been two plus years since i have been on one. here are some casual observations on the Tige 22ve:

THE GOOD
**the vinyl is good on the 2006’s. the 2007’s have AWESOME vinyl that feels almost like suede. I do question how durable and how stain/dirt resistant it will be.
**I am a fan of a huge sun deck (more place for women to bask in the sun), but the Tige’s deck is growing on me. The extra storage in the back (similar to the 236 crossover) is of no use, but it makes a nice place to sit when you are chilling. The walkthrough is a waste on all boats in my opinion. I do like the lip/curl on the transom. The design (at the expense of storage space in the rear lockers) is awesome as it keeps surf rollers from coming over the transom.
**right next to Calabria, Tige has the biggest platforms in the business. Big kudos.
**the new dash on the 22ve is very nice compared to the older models that pointed skyward.
**the wake on the 22ve is very nice. It is a definite improvement over the 22v. it is very rampy with no additionally weight. Add some weight aft and it does start to peak nicely. Load it down like crazy and it will get very big.
**surf wake is what you would expect out of a 102” wide boat: big and nice!
**the upgraded stereo sounds very nice.

THE OBJECTIONABLE
**the boat is big. 22' long by 102" wide. for being a 22' boat, you sure dont feel like you are in a vessel that big. There is a lot of length that is wasted by fiberglass both fore and aft that yields no additionally functionality. While it is deeper, the cockpit feels no bigger than an older model Malibu VLX. But then again, I am spoiled by a 21’ Calabria ProV that feels like a 24’ boat.
**the ballast system is a complete afterthought. It is a four-tank unit, all tanks above the floor. The tank that sits under the observer seat is a colossal disaster. It almost completely blocks access to that vast storage space.
**the steering is EXTREMELY light. I know this is personal preference, but if I wasn’t concentrating on holding a strait line, then it was next to impossible to keep the wheel form floating from side to side. Every time I looked in the mirror, I noticed that my prop wash was zigzagging. Even the tige sales rep made comment of it being too sensitive.
**the speed control is retarded. It works off of a guestimation. You get the rider up to “speed” then you hit the “set” button. Then you press the up or down button to increase or decrease the speed. I guess having learned on perfect pass, this system just seems like it as not as user friendly. if it aint broke, dont fix it.
**the rubber bungee cords they use on their board racks are a joke. The stretch and then they break. Also, each rack has worked itself loose on the water. Nothing like busting out the allen wrenches to make them useable again.
**the cup holders in the cockpit are on the floor rather than along the gunnels. While this may seem like splitting hairs, it allows cups/cans/drinks to get kicked and spilled. It is an inconvenience to bend down to the cup holders rather than having them at user height. On every other boat I have been in, cup holders double as watch/phone/jewelry/wallet holders. On the Tige, it places those items on the floor in a foots path and allows wet bathing suits, life jackets, and rain to soak them.