2021 g23

[kodiak]

Put a deposit on a new 23 build date not till May. Have plenty of time to figure out colors but this is my first go at it similar to my G21 I have now. Demoed one the other day and was blown away.

[astilley]

Good looking boat! How was the surf wave on the demo? I am a heavier guy and I am wondering if I will need to add extra ballast to the boat.

[Tallredrider]

Nice work, Kodiak! I hope to see it down in my neck of the woods next fall.

[kodiak]

Good looking boat! How was the surf wave on the demo? I am a heavier guy and I am wondering if I will need to add extra ballast to the boat.

It was just my son and I with the salesman, he said it had some lead but not much, it was a customers boat that lets them do demo's on it. The wave was amazing i'm 250 and could go back further than the surf rope it really was something I wasn't expecting.

[kodiak]

Nice work, Kodiak! I hope to see it down in my neck of the woods next fall.

St George is always my first trip of the season hopefully I will have it before June. Headed down to Powell today for last trip of the year. Water up here is so cold now.

[Johnny_Rock]

Good looking boat! How was the surf wave on the demo? I am a heavier guy and I am wondering if I will need to add extra ballast to the boat.

I did two demos in a 2021. First time out was stock and I was very, very disappointed. Nothing like our 2016 G23 with 500lbs of lead.

Second time out--they added one 750 pound sack in each locker and 400 pounds of lead in the bow. Big difference. If i'm understanding correctly, the dry weight is 100lbs more--but the amount of stock ballast is significantly less. Too bad that Nautique reduced the size of the stock ballast.

[astilley]

I did two demos in a 2021. First time out was stock and I was very, very disappointed. Nothing like our 2016 G23 with 500lbs of lead.

Second time out--they added one 750 pound sack in each locker and 400 pounds of lead in the bow. Big difference. If i'm understanding correctly, the dry weight is 100lbs more--but the amount of stock ballast is significantly less. Too bad that Nautique reduced the size of the stock ballast.

I have ridden behind my friends 2018 g23 with no extra ballast and just a few passengers. Do you think the stock 2021 is better than the stock 2018?

[Johnny_Rock]

I have ridden behind my friends 2018 g23 with no extra ballast and just a few passengers. Do you think the stock 2021 is better than the stock 2018?

I have not ridden a stock 2018. Only my stock 2016 and the stock 2021. It's been awhile since I've ridden our boat stock; we have 500lbs of lead in it. But If memory serves--I would say the wave of our 2016 stock G23 is better than the wave on the stock 2021. Just my humble opinion.

However, the 2021 with two 750s in the rear and 400 pounds under the bow seating was mind blowing!

[astilley]

Were the 750 bags Plug and Play or were they manual fill? The whole reason I am upgrading to a 2021 is to get rid of my Fat Sacs. I wouldn't mind if they were plug and play though.

[Kenv]

Kinda stupid/crazy that we have to "add" anything to a $230,000 dedicated surf boat with BALLAST and wave plates to make a better wave. Mind blow.....LOL

[FireBreathingRubberDucky]

This is something I am also struggling with. I will say this, the wave on the 2021 hull design for my purposes, was considerably better than my stock 2020 G23. Much more customizable. It’s also better than my 2020 with 800lbs of lead from the mid ship forward. Considerably more usable length and my biggest gripe about the G23 was the wave length, though a lot of this comes down to preference. I’ve also heard every argument about perceived wave length and actual wave length and have surfed multiple boats at this juncture and will say the most usable length I’ve been behind recently was the X24. That being said, it was a softer wave than a G. I could surf right up to the platform on the X-24, even though I read a theory this isn’t possible. The conditions on the lake for the X-24 demo were not great and there was only 2 other people in the boat and there was no lead. That being said I’m not sure the length difference was enough to make up the shortcomings in other areas, particularly storage, sound system, walk through transom and so on. Here is a pic I screenshot from my video on the G23 demo. I had the surf setting at 5 and speed was 11.6. Later we played with it and turned the setting up to 10 and surfed at 12.3 mph and that wave was absolutely insane! Unfortunately, I didn’t get a Video/pic of it. I just wish I didn’t have to add lead to the boat anymore....that stuff is hard to drain lol! I asked my dealer about PNP as well and he said they couldn’t add it subfloor and it would have to go in the rear transom storage. I wish Nautique would have at least kept the ballast the same. Oh well. I still ordered the boat and will use my lead...first world problems I suppose. It’s still an amazing boat and in my opinion leaps and bounds improved from the previous hull design!

[Johnny_Rock]

Were the 750 bags Plug and Play or were they manual fill? The whole reason I am upgrading to a 2021 is to get rid of my Fat Sacs. I wouldn't mind if they were plug and play though.

For the demo it was manual fill. But the guy is telling me he spoke w a Nautique rep and there is room to put bags under the floor and make them plug and play as you say.

Kinda stupid/crazy that we have to "add" anything to a $230,000 dedicated surf boat with BALLAST and wave plates to make a better wave. Mind blow.....LOL

I agree that it is stupid that you need to "add" anything to these boats. I like to think that it's not really a $230,000 boat.

[astilley]

This is something I am also struggling with. I will say this, the wave on the 2021 hull design for my purposes, was considerably better than my stock 2020 G23. Much more customizable. It’s also better than my 2020 with 800lbs of lead from the mid ship forward. Considerably more usable length and my biggest gripe about the G23 was the wave length, though a lot of this comes down to preference. I’ve also heard every argument about perceived wave length and actual wave length and have surfed multiple boats at this juncture and will say the most usable length I’ve been behind recently was the X24. That being said, it was a softer wave than a G. I could surf right up to the platform on the X-24, even though I read a theory this isn’t possible. The conditions on the lake for the X-24 demo were not great and there was only 2 other people in the boat and there was no lead. That being said I’m not sure the length difference was enough to make up the shortcomings in other areas, particularly storage, sound system, walk through transom and so on. Here is a pic I screenshot from my video on the G23 demo. I had the surf setting at 5 and speed was 11.6. Later we played with it and turned the setting up to 10 and surfed at 12.3 mph and that wave was absolutely insane! Unfortunately, I didn’t get a Video/pic of it. I just wish I didn’t have to add lead to the boat anymore....that stuff is hard to drain lol! I asked my dealer about PNP as well and he said they couldn’t add it subfloor and it would have to go in the rear transom storage. I wish Nautique would have at least kept the ballast the same. Oh well. I still ordered the boat and will use my lead...first world problems I suppose. It’s still an amazing boat and in my opinion leaps and bounds improved from the previous hull design!

In the Picture you posted, how much extra lead or people were in the boat with you?

[FireBreathingRubberDucky]

We had 400lbs of lead with 3 people onboard. I was playing with all the different levels quite a bit. I know G’s can get steep and generate a lot of push but I wanted to see how much we could change it from this standard baseline. I am happy to report that turning it down to 1-3 really did mellow it out quite a bit while still generating plenty of push. Skim boarding at these settings would be fun. My favorite was definitely having the setting at 8-10 and 12.3 mph:

[Kenv]

Hey Fire...that's a pretty awesome wave in that pic above......and a great picture with "The Fog" chasing you....LOL.