2021 G Platform vs 2021 Paragon Platform

[FOB1SAN]

I get a ton of water that rushes up when I come to stop to pick up the rider. Problem is (small problem I guess) the water gets into the rear cooler locker. Melts all my ice pretty fast. Does this happen on the Paragon as well? I added 1950 lbs, but none in the rear locker. Could that be the problem?

[Cpan13]

If you turn slightly does it help? It did on the old G’s.

[FireBreathingRubberDucky]

Where did you add the 1950lbs? Did you do it all in lead or add PNP? I had the same issue with my 2020 G23 when I pulled wakeboards and the ballast full. I would just double pump the throttle and turn to the right ever so slightly. With surfing it was never a problem but I always just turn hard to the opposite side of the surf wave while putting it in neutral on the transition and then maybe touching reverse a little. This keeps us away from the oncoming wave as well.

[FOB1SAN]

I’m gonna try that.

lead weight. Under the flip up bench seats closest to the tower and under the flip up port locker.

[tke104]

You added 39 bags of lead? Any pics of the lead and the wave?

[FOB1SAN]

Yes. I’ll take one next time I go. Wakemaker bags. I don’t think it’s lead. Steel pellets.

anyone with a Paragon have the same issue? I just ordered a Paragon.

[Hogwild]

The ONLY design flaw, and that's what it is, is the rear ice chest on my P25. I think having 3 rear steps on the Paragon versus 2 on my old G25 is the difference, the ice chest sits lower allowing it to be covered with water when you stop while surfing. Apparently the seal around the ice chest lid does not prevent 90 degree lake water from filtering through the ice chest resulting in all the ice melting in about 2 hours....pretty terrible. That being said, it's an amazing boat with an amazing wave. 600lbs of lead bags in mine here FYI.

[FOB1SAN]

My thoughts exactly.

Not nearly enough factory ballast. If I didn’t have the extra weight, I’d be pretty disappointed. Simply because in my book my weighted down 2019 set my bar.

[Shamsra]

When we tested the G21 this spring, we loaded full ballast to get a look at the surf wake (too cold for us to actually get in the water and surf). The wake was very impressive, but when I stopped the boat suddenly, the wall of water rushed the transom and swamped my wife and mother in law sitting in the flipped back seat. Driver error to be sure, but that boat did not make the cut.

[Gtsum2]

Hmm...my 20 g23 will full ballast and 500lbs of lead (soon to be 800lbs) doesn’t have water coming into the back when stopped from surfing...when my rider falls, I cut power and turn starboard and wait for the waves to pass (did take a couple over the bow before learning). But I haven’t had an issue with it coming over the back...maybe over the rear I’ve chest but certainly not higher than that


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[FOB1SAN]

My question is more so the ice chest in the back. My 19 had water come up on the back when I stopped, but the ice chest didn’t take any water in.

[greggmck]

If one throttles back quickly (or even modestly) with full ballast when running at planing speeds (+18 MPH) ALL 2016 - 2021 Gs will take water over the stern (I don't remember if my 2014 hull did this). One must throttle back very slowly or turn to avoid the stern from getting swamped when slowing from planing speeds with full ballast. But at surf speed the pre 2021 hulls would usually stay dry if the stern cooler were even moderately sealed regardless of how fast the throttle was chopped.

However, on the Paragon with the three step down stern design, the transom is lower and it will take water into the hull (not much) but enough to trigger the bilge pump every 30-45 minutes. It is important to ensure the catch on the stern cooler is adjusted to provide the maximum seal or the Paragon and the 2021 G will take on more water than normal. This is done by adjusting the phillips set screw on the cooler catch so the seal is compressed when the cooler cover is closed. Don't forget to tighten the little lock nut that keeps the set screw in position otherwise the screw will quickly vibrate loose.

[RDT-G23]

If one throttles back quickly (or even modestly) with full ballast when running at planing speeds (+18 MPH) ALL 2016 - 2021 Gs will take water over the stern (I don't remember if my 2014 hull did this). One must throttle back very slowly or turn to avoid the stern from getting swamped when slowing from planing speeds with full ballast. But at surf speed the pre 2021 hulls would usually stay dry if the stern cooler were even moderately sealed regardless of how fast the throttle was chopped.

However, on the Paragon with the three step down stern design, the transom is lower and it will take water into the hull (not much) but enough to trigger the bilge pump every 30-45 minutes. It is important to ensure the catch on the stern cooler is adjusted to provide the maximum seal or the Paragon and the 2021 G will take on more water than normal. This is done by adjusting the phillips set screw on the cooler catch so the seal is compressed when the cooler cover is closed. Don't forget to tighten the little lock nut that keeps the set screw in position otherwise the screw will quickly vibrate loose.

Excellent feedback here. More than anything, one has to avoid the tendency to "jump out of the throttle". I draw mine down in a linear fashion, but not so fast that a rush of water casues the problem detailed.

[greggmck]

Excellent feedback here. More than anything, one has to avoid the tendency to "jump out of the throttle". I draw mine down in a linear fashion, but not so fast that a rush of water casues the problem detailed.

Agree. That should be the only way a throttle is moved unless its an emergency!

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[JBell]

Can confirm on the G23 2021. Does not take water over the stern at surf speeds when throttling back fully. But will take water over the stern at 20+ mph with a full pull back whether fully ballast or not.