Walters V-Drive for '07?

[AbunDiga909]

A friend of mine was lucky enough to get behind the wheel of an '07 211 a little while ago. One of the things he told me was that it pulled to the right. Does this mean that they are putting the new Walters V-Drive in all of the V-Drive Nautiques? Last year someone 'high up' told me that they used the 210 as the 'gini(sp?) pig' boat to see if it would be successful. I guess the answer is "Yes"? Anyody have any information? Thanks...

[Flux]

RE: Walters V-Drive for

I thought they went to the PCM V-Drive.

[DRAGON88]

RE: Walters V-Drive for

If by Walters you mean PCM then yes, my guess is that they'll be moving all their boats over to the PCM units.

[ssnauti]

re:walters

I skied behind the '07 SV211 last Sat w/ my dealer. The new walters tranny spins the prop clockwise. It is super quiet!

Wasn't that happy about the wake for serious skiers even though I've read others say the wake is good at 22 off. Don't agree! The boat did have a fantastic wake for boarding w/ STD ballast tanks full and I liked the way the ballast pumps are mounted in the engine compartment.

[skinautique]

RE: re:walters

The 2007 Vdrives will all have the new PCM Vdrive with the exception of the 226.

I personally do not like the location of the ballast pumps on the 211. It is a nightmare for service.

I thought you were fixing this Correct Craft!

[ag4ever]

RE: re:walters

I thought you were CC.

Why is the 226 not going to the new unit?

[Onthewater]

RE: re:walters

nobody knows who or what skinautique is, it could all be an act, sure keeps us guessing though.

[AbunDiga909]

RE: re:walters

ok this is a pretty stupid comment, i should know this... what are you talking about--PCM VDrive? Let me state the obvious, which is all I know, the vdrive engines that CC has used in the past years in their vdrive boats, 210, 211, etc... are all PCM engines, excalibu, zr6, etc... what is the PCM VDrive?

my guess, from what someone told me long ago, was that the actual 'V' part of the shaft, or what leads to the shaft, was the part that was switched. Are you all saying that the 'V' was not a PCM part, until now? Walters is by PCM, and w/e CC used before wasn't? This is just a guess...

[DRAGON88]

RE: re:walters

Walter makes the V-drive transfercases found in all of the pre 06 boats. They are not owned by PCM in any way, they were what CC decided to use in their boats.

In 2006 (on the 210) they replaced the Walters unit with a PCM transfercase that is smaller and also turns the prop the opposite direction as before.

[AbunDiga909]

RE: re:walters

Oh, that makes more sense.. I got the impression for some reason that the Walters V-Drive was the new thing that came out in the 210 last year, but now I gather that that option last year was really getting the transfer case that was nothing new at all... correct?

[DRAGON88]

RE: re:walters

For 2006 the 210 got the new PCM V-drive transfercase. It wasn't an option, but the other V-drive boats in the lineup still had the Walters unit.

[Zwengit]

For the last 30 years Correct Craft has repeatedly told us that we need right hand propellers for best handling and tracking . . . the Walters Vdrive (used by CC for the past 10 years) spins the prop right hand. I've got one in my SAN and I wouldn't buy a boat with a left hand prop -- the handling is much different !

The new PCM Vdrive doesn't have that ability -- it spins the prop left hand. So handling and tracking suffer. CC was right all those years -- what changed??

The PCM's been out with that Vdrive 1 year in the field on just the 226 -- but for '07 all the boats are PCM Vdrives. It'll be interesting to see if CC's going to have a real mess in 2 or 3 years by making this change. Can't understand why they wouldn't stick with the Walters quality and track record, except to save a few dollars.

The PCM's smaller, because it doesn't have stuff the Walters does like an oil pump or cooling chamber which you can clean out. And it's got the coupler spinning right up front . . . wouldn't put my kids on a seat right in front of it -- if those bolts come loose and fly out it'll make a real mess.

Wait 'till you get to see how you're supposed to check the oil in the PCM unit -- you gotta lay on your belly & open up a plug and look inside. Oh, no warning light either.

But heck, who cares about quality in the drivetrain !!!

[ag4ever]

How many bolt have you see come loose?

How many bolt have you heard of coming loose?

I don't think the handling will be that different, other than backing a different direction, but not worse.

Some times simplicity is best and adding on to much extra items just makes it worse.

Not saying the new ones are better, but I feel they are changing this so the componets will cost less and they can compete with the other compaines better. Just the props should cost less since they can now use the same ones the othe compaines are using which means more volume and hopefully lower prices.

[WilliamWallace]

I test drove the 211 yesterday with the new PCM drive. The mechanic went out with us on the boat. He was pretty excited about these new drives. Maintenance free, lighter, simpler design, more ruggedly built, etc. He thought it was a big improvement over last year's model.

[Zwengit]

How many bolt have you see come loose?

How many bolt have you heard of coming loose?

I don't think the handling will be that different

will cost less and they can compete with the other compaines better. Just the props should cost less .

Was on a pals boat fishing offshore 2 years back when all of a sudden there was no forward motion but the engine hit the rev limiter -- the bolts between the transmission and coupler came loose. They must have come loose one by one cause of vibration over a while when finally they were all down in the bilge. So it happens.

One time my mechanic left two of my bolts loose on my Walters after checking the line-up but lucky for me I heard a little ticking noise when I fired it up ('cause on my Walters theres a big casting right above) and so I shut it down and found them right away.

Only need ONE bolt to get loose and fly around at 4,000 rpm . . . that bolt is bigger than a .45 round. If you have kids like me, you'd understand that 1 loose bolt out of 1,000 is too many.

Yeah it should probably cost less 'cause CC have to be nuts to pay the same for a drive with zero history in the field -- so the boat'll probably be a whopping $45.00 less. Okay for CC to save $45 on a radio, but the drive is not where I want them to cut corners.

Lighter? I want all the weight I can get back there. Don't you use sacs. Why do you want it lighter?

"Maintenance free"? Sounds good but last time I checked I have to change my engine oil and tranny oil in my truck, in my boat, everywhere -- but this PCM unit has mystery oil that'll last forever??? (and how do they know if it hasn't been out on the water for more than a year? No test is gonna take the place of years "on the water".)

There's no dipstick so unless I want to waste an hour on my belly I won't even be able to check the oil level. Thats not simplicity thats just cheap.

All I know its not the right rotation and I'm not takin' any chances on being a guiney pig. And the one I heard sounded like it had marbles in it.