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  • SmokieRiver
    • Jun 2020
    • 38

    • SE-WI

    • 2021 G23

    #46
    I disagree with above. In regards to the GoPro, you cannot take away a feature you advertised without giving the customer an option to keep or some level of minor “compensation”. It would be like Ford taking away Nav on my truck and telling me just use Google Maps off my phone. Truck is still functional without the Nav, but I lost something that came standard and was assumed in the purchase price.

    as a side note, I picked up my 2021 G23 from the dealer today and the awareness camera looked the same as prior. I forgot to check if GoPro functionality was still there.

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    • greggmck
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Oct 2014
      • 795

      • Bellevue WA

      • 2023 Paragon G23

      #47
      Originally posted by Sammm724 View Post

      Yeah exactly! So you are looking for jet skis and other boaters through the camera? Ummmm that doesn't really sound safe, I suggest you use your rear view mirror or turn your head around to look and not depend on a tv screen which could be delayed. JMO
      Ummm, you think that because you probably have not used a wide view rear camera for any period of time. I am now approaching 6,000 hours of single screw inboard ownership. All of those hours were in training for or actual competition of towed water sports. I have driven in Nationals and World Ski and Wakesurf competitions. I use a mirror ALL the time. I never said I use a camera instead of a mirror. But one can't be looking at the dash for wave settings, speed, engine performance AND be looking at the mirror too. If you have driven more than 100 ft only to learn your rider fell while you were looking at the speed or other dash information you would benefit from having a camera too.

      I never used a camera until I had teenagers. They are naturally more comfortable using the camera. But adding a rear view camera into your scan while using a mirror offers a level of performance you won't achieve with a mirror alone.
      Last edited by greggmck; 07-17-2021, 05:51 PM.

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      • tke104
        • Jul 2010
        • 70

        • Ice Coast


        #48
        Man, sometimes the internet is the worst. greggmck is providing legitimate feedback to Nautique sating his dislike that they 1) disabled GoPro integration without warning and 2) made the camera view significantly worse, and people on here are telling him he should be using his mirror and not updating his software to the latest version. Wow.
        I am with you buddy; Nautique should fix this.

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        • bird_dog0347
          • Oct 2020
          • 347

          • DFW

          • 2021 G23 Paragon

          #49
          Agreed, this isn't about what someone should or shouldn't use, this isn't about someone having a first world problem... this was Greg posting his feedback on the user experience (something that ALL software designers should take seriously). I hope you sent it to Nautique or that they saw this post.

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          • greggmck
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Oct 2014
            • 795

            • Bellevue WA

            • 2023 Paragon G23

            #50
            So here is an update on this issue: Today I investigated if options are available for reverting to the prior LINC update. I could find none. I decided to reinstall the same update. I did this because when I originally updated the SW the Release Notes were only displayed for 15 or so seconds and I did not have a chance to study them before the message disappeared. Most systems allow one to recall the Release Notes but I could not find a way to do this with LINC.

            After carefully reading the Release Notes I was relieved to learn the GoPro menu was NOT completely removed. But the default is to hide that menu. One has to go into Settings / Display and select a toggle button to enable the GoPro Menu. When you do this a caution message is shown (see image below). My GoPro Hero 7 works as it did before and I saw no changes to the LINC GoPro controls. I suspect Nautique hid the menu to reduce the complaints they receive from owners of new GoPro 8 and 9 cameras that can't get the LINC system to connect. Hopefully Nautique will embrace the new GoPro Open API standard for GoPro Hero 9 cameras and deliver functionality that really works.

            BTW: I contacted Nautique after I posted my concern here and today I spoke with my dealer. Nothing back so far.

            LINC Release Notes:
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            GoPro Menu Control Button hidden in Settings / Display Options
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            GoPro Caution Message
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            Last edited by greggmck; 07-17-2021, 06:23 PM.

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            • Sammm724
              • Jul 2020
              • 60

              • California

              • 2011 SANTE 2001 Ski Centurion

              #51
              Originally posted by bird_dog0347 View Post
              Agreed, this isn't about what someone should or shouldn't use, this isn't about someone having a first world problem... this was Greg posting his feedback on the user experience (something that ALL software designers should take seriously). I hope you sent it to Nautique or that they saw this post.
              This is a "discussion board" right?

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              • SANonTellico
                • Aug 2014
                • 296

                • Tellico Lake, TN

                • 2022 GS22

                #52
                Originally posted by Sammm724 View Post

                This is a "discussion board" right?
                This is a discussion board but as a courtesy, the discussion should stay on topic.
                Changing the topic is generally done by starting a new thread.
                Previously: 2015 SAN 210

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                • Kenv
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 1070

                  • Texas

                  • 2021 G23 Previous 2015 G21 2010 226 2005 226 2000 Super Air

                  #53
                  Unless you're looking at something else...I believe this pretty much stayed "On topic" the whole time. Just some different opinions didn't take it anywhere....he is still talking about his user experience....right? Even provided some screen shots.

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                  • tke104
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 70

                    • Ice Coast


                    #54
                    greggmck - other than the camera view issues, how do you like the new software vs the previous?

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                    • greggmck
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 795

                      • Bellevue WA

                      • 2023 Paragon G23

                      #55
                      Other than the clipped rear camera view the new version is working very well.

                      Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk

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                      • srock
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 1064

                        • Florida

                        • 2009 Super Air 230 2005 Whaler Dauntless

                        #56
                        I apologize for moving a little off topic but everybody should be as happy as greggmck looks in his profile picture...

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                        • boomersooner
                          • Jun 2020
                          • 36

                          • Sanger, TX

                          • 2024 G23

                          #57
                          I wonder if this software upgrade is only available to Paragon owners. I checked mine on Friday and it was not available for my '21 G. I did find where I could leave the camera view up and not have it automatically shutoff. Pretty handy to use as a secondary view when the sun isn't glaring on the screen.

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                          • Sammm724
                            • Jul 2020
                            • 60

                            • California

                            • 2011 SANTE 2001 Ski Centurion

                            #58
                            Originally posted by SANonSherman View Post

                            This is a discussion board but as a courtesy, the discussion should stay on topic.
                            Changing the topic is generally done by starting a new thread.
                            Well if that was the case, this thread would only be 1 page and not 4. Guess the discussion board police isn't doing their job. Maybe you should start a new topic about how to properly reply on a discussion since it seems you are really worried about it.

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                            • William_Zane
                              • Apr 2021
                              • 50

                              • Culver, Indiana

                              • 2021 Nautique G25

                              #59
                              Originally posted by boomersooner View Post
                              I wonder if this software upgrade is only available to Paragon owners. I checked mine on Friday and it was not available for my '21 G. I did find where I could leave the camera view up and not have it automatically shutoff. Pretty handy to use as a secondary view when the sun isn't glaring on the screen.
                              This isn't available on our G25 either. Im wondering if it's only for Paragons as well.

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                              • William_Zane
                                • Apr 2021
                                • 50

                                • Culver, Indiana

                                • 2021 Nautique G25

                                #60
                                Has anyone else received this update besides greggmck ?

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