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As the title suggest, what would you guys go with? I have a 2021 G23 and while I’ve been wakesurfing more the last couple years, I’ve got that wakeboard bug back and absolutely love the wake behind my boat. However, it got me to wondering. With so much of the industry focus being on wakesurfing anymore, who comes second to the G23 in terms of wakeboard wake? I’ve heard the Xstar is too mellow for some (very rampy without much kick at the top, though some like this). The only other boat I’ve heard good reviews about are the Supra SL and SA series. Either way, just figured I’d see what everyone else’s experience is?
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Malibu 23LSV was wakeworld wakeboard boat of the year 2020, stopping a 7 year run by the G23. The Tige 23ZX was third behind the paragon. I don’t know if that is actual riders or just brand loyalty voting for that. I have not ridden behind either of those boats. I have not ridden behind an Axis, but I have read many comments that properly weighted, it will throw a wake comparable to some of the top tier boats. It will also come down to preference as some people like different shape wakes over others, like you mentioned about the Xstar. The SA is the pro tour boat and those guys seem to do just fine off that wake. You probably won’t get a lot of unbiased opinions here because you are on a Nautique forum, I’m on the Supra/Moomba forum and those guys think Supra is better than G/P’s. Wakeworld is pretty dead these days, but even there it was a lot of brand tripping and lack of objectivity. So, will be hard to find a place to get good unbiased reviews for your question. -
I haven’t ridden behind the new 23LSV but have heard that about the Axis now that you mention it. In regards to receiving unbiased opinions, that’s why I prefaced the statement by saying if not the G23. I just think it makes for some fun conversation, as I love my Nautique but am also a boat enthusiast. Thank you for the input however. I’ve also never been behind the Tige. The Supra SA does appear to throw a pretty good wake.
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axis a22 or a24 are great, and better then nautique at lower speeds (if you have kids learning). axis are less finicky side to side and don't wash out as easy. axis has aerator pumps which are very quick too. axis does not require as much weight to firm up the wake and get lippy, and no prop torque issue on one side. also, axis like malibu has the wedge. only downside is more bow rise then nautique so you have to have piggy back under seats in front.
the axis t-series, not so much.Last edited by scottb7; 08-24-2021, 01:21 PM.Comment
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Our old boat the 2004 210 with 5k ballast was saweeet. It had a waist high rock hard wake like a curb. I'm too old for that stuff now. Our current boat 2014 210 makes a nice wake for an old guy.
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2014 SANTE. NSS. Pro balllast. Boatmate trailer
2004 SANTE. 4000 lb ballast, 2013 graphics (prev). Ramlin trailer
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LOL! Love it and this takes me back. I had a Ski Sanger I slammed with about 2,000lbs of sand bags and I would add another 600lbs of weights I had in the old home gym. Then I’d find as many people as I could and head to the lake. Back in those days I couldn’t afford to add ballast bags.Originally posted by XBIGPUN66 View Post
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The G21. I’m not even convinced the G23 is better than the G21 at wakeboarding.Comment
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I've just started logging some time behind an A22 and have to admit it has a pretty nice wake. Not quite in G class, but **** nice. I've had a rough water set behind an X22 which was definitely in the G's class, altho as mentioned it's much rampier (more mellow??) and prolly similar to an XStar. Also ridden behind a Supra SA but the wake wasn't dialed in as they primarily surfed, but it was MASSIVE and seemed like it had crazy potential. All the guys here are now ravin' about the M220, which I'd assume has a similar wake profile as an A22 but on serious steroids.
The interesting thing to me is I think many of the primary mfgs have rigs that easily rival a G wake and just comes down to preferences, but everyone still does their comparisons with the G Series.'08 Super Air Nautique 210Comment
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I had a Malibu 25LSV and it was standard Malibu wakeboard wake, but bigger. It is the real sleeper in the Malibu lineup. Some of the secret has gotten out, but I have not gotten in an M series boat, but some who could afford whatever they want go to the 25LSV after trying all of the Malibu and Axis boats. So if I couldn't have a G, that is what I would do (it is actually what I did).Comment
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I test drove the M220 last year and the surf wave was massive! IMO it had the biggest wave between the G23, LSV, SA, X24, and Ri237. Nice fit and finish as well. Unfortunately the rear ballast made the bow sky high and killed the rear locker storage which is why I ultimately chose the G.
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Wakeboard wake shape is personal preference. I find the Axis A24 wake, followed by the A22 and the Malibu LSVs, to have a great shape. I certainly prefer driving my G, but prefer the shape of the Malibu/Axis boats.
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I am with vision. The A24 , Bu 23 LSV , and A22 are legit. The biggest downfall to the bu/axis is fuel consumption. They take so much weight and combined with the wedge it’s brutal. To be up front I haven’t ridden the latest Gen X Star , but anything other wakeboard wake prior wasn’t even close to G21.
the G21 is a sleeper of a wakeboard king IMO. It’s the best blend of
that old pre 07 SANTE wall mixed with a much easier knee friendly transition.
I don’t spend enough time in a single dialed in Supra to make an honest comparison , and quite frankly I feel both Supra and Tige have major pricing issues being well above what their boats demand I don’t care to really dial one in. I just demo the new models as they’re released.
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Agreed on the G21. Best wakeboard wake of a modern Nautique. Better lip than the G23.
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This depends how much over stock you go. G23 requires much more then G21 over stock to get firm and lippy. IMHO.Originally posted by vision View PostComment
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