All around family ski/wake nautique?

[Papachristou]

We have a place in northern a Wisconsin and have been looking to get a boat to keep up there at the lake house. My wife was on a ski team and is an amazing slalom skier but we have three boys the oldest of which would like to wakesurf too. Looking to spend around $30-50k. Would consider as high as $60k for the right boat.

we won’t be running a course but would like to be able to ski, board and surf. Obviously don’t expect the wake to be perfect for each one and won’t be running courses. Just open water skiing and boarding.


I’ve found a few 2005ish 206s that seem to fit the bill. One has the lower 275hp engine which I’ve heard can struggle.

also found a clean 2010 210.

any advice which way to go?

[MN Ryan]

IMO, unless your main pursuit is skiing, I would not go with a 206. Direct drives are great for skiing, but you get so much more useable room in a v-drive, and surfing a direct drive, while possible, is less than ideal.

I can't comment on the 210. It's obviously a better option for boarding and surfing, but skiing may suck.

I have an SV-211. When set up correctly, it surfs respectably. I'm not much of a boarder, but the wakeboard wake is decent. It obviously throws a bigger wake than a direct drive for skiing, but above 30 mph, it's not too bad.

I'm sure others will chime in, but those are my 2 cents. Good luck!

[swatguy]

What we would need to get you into the right suggestions is what is most important to you or what sport will be the priority. If wake sports are the priority the recommendation would be different than if ski wake will be the priority.

the only reason to consider a direct drive in this case is if ski wakes are the majority and priority. Filling a direct drive with sacs everywhere to wakeboard or surf really makes the boat a handful and takes up a lot of space.

[MN Ryan]

Yes, coming from a guy who learned to surf behind a MC Prostar with fat sacs on every inch of available space, it is pretty awful.

[bturner]

The 200V is the boat you should be looking for IMO. I bought one as I pretty much wanted what you're looking for and have been very happy with the results. I wouldn't call it a tournament capable rig but I've pulled people through the course, trick skiing, wakeboarding and we surf it all the time with stock ballast, piggyback bags in the rear and a Mission Delta II. I have no problem surfing this boat with that set up with 2 people in the boat.

The problem you'll most likely have is first finding one and second getting one in good shape for under $60K, prices on these boats (as with others) have gone nuts. I paid low 50s for my 2016 in 2019 and had 2 offers for 70 this spring. They're out there but finding a good one at a good price these days is tough.

The original plan with this boat was to, detail it up, do a couple resale type upgrades, use it for a year, then flip it. After that first season we decided it did everything we wanted and decided to keep it. In addition to it's on water abilities it's a smaller boat that's well suited to a single axle trailer. This means it's easier to store and move around by yourself. It also means that cleaning it and waxing it takes much less time/effort as well.

I honestly haven't experienced a better crossover boat.

[Papachristou]

The 200V is the boat you should be looking for IMO. I bought one as I pretty much wanted what you're looking for and have been very happy with the results. I wouldn't call it a tournament capable rig but I've pulled people through the course, trick skiing, wakeboarding and we surf it all the time with stock ballast, piggyback bags in the rear and a Mission Delta II. I have no problem surfing this boat with that set up with 2 people in the boat.

The problem you'll most likely have is first finding one and second getting one in good shape for under $60K, prices on these boats (as with others) have gone nuts. I paid low 50s for my 2016 in 2019 and had 2 offers for 70 this spring. They're out there but finding a good one at a good price these days is tough.

The original plan with this boat was to, detail it up, do a couple resale type upgrades, use it for a year, then flip it. After that first season we decided it did everything we wanted and decided to keep it. In addition to it's on water abilities it's a smaller boat that's well suited to a single axle trailer. This means it's easier to store and move around by yourself. It also means that cleaning it and waxing it takes much less time/effort as well.

I honestly haven't experienced a better crossover boat.

Like a 2015ish Sport 200?

[bturner]

Mine's a 2016 which basically all they did was change the driver's seat (great upgrade BTW) and the stereo to JL Audio. You could go all the way back to I think 2012 and still have the same boat with just slightly different interior and components. With the way things are going you may be able to get something nice this fall in your price range.

There's a 2015 on only inboards for $59900 but it's a FL boat and the bottom seat cushions look a bit toasty.

[Papachristou]

Great, thank you. I found a few 2015s asking mid to upper 70s.

[swatguy]

I obviously own a 2008 210. I’ve installed Nautiques factory surf system on my boat.



I’ll give you my comparison of the 2010 to the 200V

The 210 has more space and storage. The reversible lounge in the 08-2013 models is awesome. While not the easiest seat flip everyone in the entire boat is basically opened up to rear stadium seating to watch the action. All my ballast is hidden and connected to the factory system so it all fills and empties with push of button. The ski wake and hole shot in the 200 is hands down better than the 210. The 210 is skiable for sure , but there is definitely a bigger bump and to avoid that bump you need to ski on a 15 off line. Hands down the 200 is one of the fattest ski wakes you will see out of a v- drive.

wakeboard wakes on he 210 are arguably pro caliber , the definition of pro caliber has somewhat shifted with the new G23 , but as far as the accepted standard the 210 has a pro caliber wakeboard wake. It also has an above average surf wake for a 21ft boat. The wakeboard wake has much more kick that the 200 and the surf wake has a much longer pocket with more push then the 200v. Can you wakeboard behind a 200 , sure , can you surf a 200 , yes But those wakes are limited in performance much more than the 210.

if you’re wanting to tube , pack coolers , enjoy company , the 210 cockpit area is much less cramped. While the actual numbers aren’t too far of……f the actual feel and real life experience makes it seem much bigger.


Price and availability wise the 210 will edge out the 200v simply based on production years. The 210 has been around a lot longer. You’ll want to stay 2008-present for a 210. Anything pre 2007 on 210 you’ll want to stay away from.


now as mentioned above he SV211 will probably be the lowest price point model you’ll want.

the ski wakes are very respectable. The sv211 has better ski wake than the 210 but not quite as smooth as the 200v. The wakeboard wake on the 216 is mediocre and the surf wake is bit below average for a boat it’s size. The 200v surfs better than the 216. The 216 and 200v are darn near equal in wakeboard wakes. It’s ballast capacity is limited with the walk through. It’s a great all around boat and I know lot of owners that appreciate the walk through option to allow everyone to swim and lounge. Storage space in the 211 is probably the least of the 3 due to the seating and walkthru.

if budget is a priority the sv211 is a great choice. It’s bit dated in styling that’s where the 200v will look but more modern , and have just bit better performance. Is that worth the uncharge from the sv211, well that’s for you to decided. The 210 is just hard to beat for multi sport performance on the wakeboard /wake side.

[ally505]

how about a Mastercraft 205V, the boat has had a number of different names, 2000-2001 X-Star, 2002-2005 X2, 2006 onwards X1. This has a nice slalom wake and exceptional wakeboard wake with some extra weight which can all be hidden. The surf wake is okay,

I moved from a 205V to an '08 210 Nautique, much roomier, more modern, great surf wake and pretty respectable wakeboard wake. I was close to going for a 230 but as my youngest skied a little and as the wakeboard speed requires to be a little higher, we stayed away from this. Very happy with the 210 and TBH, having driven G21's and G23's I'll happily stick with what I have as whilst they are lovely boats, I can do every trick behind my 210 that I can do behind the bigger boats...the 210 is also much nicer to drive as the G's are quite cumbersome in comparison (my opinion, others will have a different view).

[Papachristou]

how about a Mastercraft 205V, the boat has had a number of different names, 2000-2001 X-Star, 2002-2005 X2, 2006 onwards X1. This has a nice slalom wake and exceptional wakeboard wake with some extra weight which can all be hidden. The surf wake is okay,

I moved from a 205V to an '08 210 Nautique, much roomier, more modern, great surf wake and pretty respectable wakeboard wake. I was close to going for a 230 but as my youngest skied a little and as the wakeboard speed requires to be a little higher, we stayed away from this. Very happy with the 210 and TBH, having driven G21's and G23's I'll happily stick with what I have as whilst they are lovely boats, I can do every trick behind my 210 that I can do behind the bigger boats...the 210 is also much nicer to drive as the G's are quite cumbersome in comparison (my opinion, others will have a different view).

I think I'm kind of set on a Nautique... Strongly leaning towards the 200v even if it is a bit more as my wife is a very good slalom skier and the boys will be in the local ski club as they get older. As long as the 200v can give them a decent wake for boarding and surfing too, I think that will fit the overall mission best from what I have been hearing. I found a 2016 with around 500 hours. He's asking 72k. Hoping to talk to him later today.

[bturner]

If you go this direction let me if you want any help with setting up the wake for surfing or have any questions on the boat itself. If you want to surf and it doesn't currently have piggyback bags you'll need t call WakeMakers for some. That and a wake shaper. The Mission Delta II has been solid for me but I'm sure others are using other brands as well.

[swatguy]

Sounds like the 200v is the boat that hits what you need best . Wish you the best in your search.

[dskier]

I vouch for the 200V as well. I am a slalom skier at heart but the boat is good (best I have found) for all. It seems like it was the last true slalom first crossover boat made. Everything now is surf first unfortunately. Barefoots great too!

[2016SPORTNAUTIQUE200]

love my 2016 sport. does it all. my main sport is slalom…into 32 off. second would be surf, full ballast and 400lb sac on surf side and wedge on opposite side works great, especially with a full boat. wakeboard is just ok.