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  • xrichard
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Aug 2008
    • 669

    • El Dorado Hills

    • 2023 G23

    #1

    G23 height on trailer, tower folded

    Obviously, it's going to depend on the trailer, suspension and wheel/tire size, but if you know your measurements (or are willing to get them), I'd sure appreciate it! I'm looking at 2nd gen (2016-2020) G23 boats. I don't need the measurement with the tower up--just folded. Sellers have been slow to get me an accurate measurement so I'm wanting to at least gather some information so I know if I'm spinning my wheels on this issue.

    Unfortunately, I made the mistake of selling my 2015 model with a trailer customized to ensure that it fit in my garage. Now I'm looking to replace the boat but a sticking point is that I'd like to keep it in my garage if possible.

    I can check at my dealer, but does anyone know if this measurement increased with the gen 3 hull starting in 2021. I see on the spec sheet that the draft is deeper so I'm guessing it'll sit higher on the trailer.
    Previous boats:
    2015 G23
    2008 SAN 210
    2002 XStar
    1995 Sport Nautique
  • Scooter G
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jan 2022
    • 1320

    • On a Lake in Idaho

    • 2022 G23 ZZ8

    #2
    I can run an accurate measurement when I hit the door this evening.

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    • xrichard
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Aug 2008
      • 669

      • El Dorado Hills

      • 2023 G23

      #3
      Originally posted by Scooter G View Post
      I can run an accurate measurement when I hit the door this evening.
      Fantastic--thank you! On yours, it looks like spinning the board racks would lower the clearance requirement
      Previous boats:
      2015 G23
      2008 SAN 210
      2002 XStar
      1995 Sport Nautique

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      • Scooter G
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Jan 2022
        • 1320

        • On a Lake in Idaho

        • 2022 G23 ZZ8

        #4
        Maybe a little. As long as width isn't an issue. We have a drive through shop, and are in the process of widening the front door. Currently have to back in through the 10' door. Unfortunately, I can't go any higher, which means dropping the tower. Extra 2 minute process once you've done it a few times. Next boat will have an electric tower for certain (something to consider).
        I watch those board racks pretty closely, I ripped one of the old Supra's removal racks off coming in one day, that sucked. Then there was the removeable board rack that removed when it wasn't supposed to, it's at the bottom of a lake somewhere. I sure like those Nautique swivel racks, lol.

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        • Jeb1974
          • Jun 2013
          • 134

          • Calgary

          • 2019 G23 w/H6 2015 G23 w/ZR450

          #5
          2016 to 2020 will vary depending if you have the power tower - standard on 2019 and optional in 2020. Our old 2015 on a boatmate trailer could fit in the 8'1" garage letting some air out of the tires. I haven't accurately measured our 2019 but I think it's close to 8'6" (also on a boatmate.) I think without the power tower it's not too different than the 2015. 2021+ is taller.

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          • xrichard
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Aug 2008
            • 669

            • El Dorado Hills

            • 2023 G23

            #6
            Thanks for the info. It gets a little confusing wrt the differences between years. One person with a 2019 told me he's at +/-8'8"--that's tough for me to work with. 8'4" -8'5" is doable. Above that gets difficult but not impossible to modify the trailer. And, of course, I can always have a new trailer made that will lower the boat quite a bit--with my 2015, I had the trailer made 9' wide and that allowed the chines to sit inside the fenders and bring the height down. Or I can see about raising the garage door header but I run into issues with the HOA.

            In any event, I'd like to get as much information as possible on 2016-2020 to determine if I'm chasing my tail. :-) If you have a chance to measure yours, I sure would appreciate it!

            I'm riding on a friend's 2022 tomorrow and will measure it.

            Whatever I end up with, it'd be nice to store in my garage like my last one. Besides the cost (in my area, $4000/year and increasing for indoor storage), there's the convenience of having the boat here for maintenance, cleaning, etc.
            Previous boats:
            2015 G23
            2008 SAN 210
            2002 XStar
            1995 Sport Nautique

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            • Scooter G
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Jan 2022
              • 1320

              • On a Lake in Idaho

              • 2022 G23 ZZ8

              #7
              Here's what I think I know...
              With the Bimini, this will be your high point @ 100". Without the Bimini and racks extended, your high point will be the tower mounts @ 99". Racks extended (folded out) you have a girth of 112" wide. Of coarse, these are a 2016 G, can't speak for other years.
              I have an 8' garage door on the house. If'n I pulled the Bimini, extended the racks, dropped the tires to 3 psi, and got a running start, I might just have a chance, lol.

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              100" line with racks folded in (high point), folded out, isn't an issue.
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              • xrichard
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Aug 2008
                • 669

                • El Dorado Hills

                • 2023 G23

                #8
                Scooter G--thank you for all of that great information! I can definitely work with 100"...and, obviously, it'll vary by trailer but my guess is I can adjust suspension to make up for most differences trailer-to-trailer.

                Hopefully those with other years will be able to give me guidance. Though my understanding is the hull is the same through 2020, there were differences in tower and bimini that will affect clearance.

                Thanks again!!
                Previous boats:
                2015 G23
                2008 SAN 210
                2002 XStar
                1995 Sport Nautique

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                • Scooter G
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Jan 2022
                  • 1320

                  • On a Lake in Idaho

                  • 2022 G23 ZZ8

                  #9
                  Sweet! Let us know where that '22 comes in at, for future reference...

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                  • xrichard
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 669

                    • El Dorado Hills

                    • 2023 G23

                    #10
                    Will do. We ended up cancelling today, so I didn't get measurements. We rescheduled for next week.
                    Previous boats:
                    2015 G23
                    2008 SAN 210
                    2002 XStar
                    1995 Sport Nautique

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                    • Jeb1974
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 134

                      • Calgary

                      • 2019 G23 w/H6 2015 G23 w/ZR450

                      #11
                      Originally posted by xrichard View Post
                      Thanks for the info. It gets a little confusing wrt the differences between years. One person with a 2019 told me he's at +/-8'8"--that's tough for me to work with. 8'4" -8'5" is doable. Above that gets difficult but not impossible to modify the trailer. And, of course, I can always have a new trailer made that will lower the boat quite a bit--with my 2015, I had the trailer made 9' wide and that allowed the chines to sit inside the fenders and bring the height down. Or I can see about raising the garage door header but I run into issues with the HOA.

                      In any event, I'd like to get as much information as possible on 2016-2020 to determine if I'm chasing my tail. :-) If you have a chance to measure yours, I sure would appreciate it!

                      I'm riding on a friend's 2022 tomorrow and will measure it.

                      Whatever I end up with, it'd be nice to store in my garage like my last one. Besides the cost (in my area, $4000/year and increasing for indoor storage), there's the convenience of having the boat here for maintenance, cleaning, etc.
                      It's moored for another month or so but can measure it when we pull it out if that's not too late. Will be a few inches higher than Scooter's since we have the power tower.

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                      • xrichard
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 669

                        • El Dorado Hills

                        • 2023 G23

                        #12
                        Jeb1974 I didn't realize the power tower was standard on 2019 (per your previous post) and it sounds like that makes the clearance a little higher than those who went with the manual (optional?) tower that year. In any event, I'd appreciate it if you can measure when you get a chance. I doubt I'll buy one for at least a month or two.
                        Previous boats:
                        2015 G23
                        2008 SAN 210
                        2002 XStar
                        1995 Sport Nautique

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                        • Scooter G
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Jan 2022
                          • 1320

                          • On a Lake in Idaho

                          • 2022 G23 ZZ8

                          #13
                          One thing I noticed yesterday and failed to mention. I have about 5" of travel left on the trailer jack which would you a little wiggle room on the Bimini height. I was looking at more of the perspective of what a trailer looks like at level hooked up to the rig.

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                          • xrichard
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 669

                            • El Dorado Hills

                            • 2023 G23

                            #14
                            Scooter G Thank you for following up--you have a great point in that the high point on the bimini is well forward of the axels, so lowering the front of the trailer will impact clearance at that point.

                            I rode behind a 2016 today and did some measurements after. Tower folded, the high point was at the hinge 97". The boat is on a CTW trailer and CTW sits the boat a bit bow down--that's why his bimini is a bit lower than yours. To get into my garage, I put the tongue on a relatively low electric dolly, so a trailer set up like yours would probably lose at least 2" in height at the front bimini--probably more. When I get a chance, I'll do the math to estimate how much the bimini will drop if I drop the tongue 10".

                            Another GREAT Planet Nautique member PM'd me that he measured his 2022 at 98" but suggested I use 100" to give some wiggle room. I'm hoping to measure another 2022 (on a Boatmate trailer) in a couple of days and will report back.
                            Previous boats:
                            2015 G23
                            2008 SAN 210
                            2002 XStar
                            1995 Sport Nautique

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                            • xrichard
                              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 669

                              • El Dorado Hills

                              • 2023 G23

                              #15
                              Just thought I'd follow up re: 2022 G23 height on trailer. I think the most useful dimension is the bottom of the prop to the top of the tower in folded position--with the standard tower, that measurement is 7' 10.5". If you allow for the prop to clear the prop cage by 2" and the prop cage to be off the ground by 5", then the absolute lowest you can go with the 2022 G23 is about 8' 5.5". This will likely require an overwide trailer to get the chines between the fenders.

                              More typically, the prop sits about 12" off the ground when the boat is on the trailer (...and this is the measurement on my buddy's 2022 G23 with Boatmate trailer...), so the typical clearance will be +/- 8' 11" with tower folded. On that trailer, the chines cleared the fender by 3.9", so you could lower the boat by 2" without impacting anything but the height of the bunks. That would get you into a 9' garage comfortably particularly if the trailer manufacturer is willing to tighten up the fender-chine clearance.

                              Previous boats:
                              2015 G23
                              2008 SAN 210
                              2002 XStar
                              1995 Sport Nautique

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