I am pretty sure if you took half of the upholsterey out of a 216 the wake would look flatter than the picture of the MC wake above? I migh suspect a nearly empty fuel tank too.
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It's a distinct possibility on the gas. The weight of seats and gas make a difference without a doubt.
I'll admit that I pull my back seat and run with less fuel for a better wake behind my old boat (and I'm not alone). Not sure what the interior will ultimately look like. It seems like the consensus on the MC forum (if such a thing is possible) is that the wrapped seating makes things a bit too crowded. If it was easily removeable, I could see its usefullness though for long day trips where the emphasis was more on cruising than skiing. Of course, since it's a crossover boat, if you put a tower on it, the wrapped seating would be good when wakeboarding, too.
In my opinion, manufacturers can get a bit carried away with trying to have it both ways, i.e., the perfect wakeboard boat and the perfect slalom boat. Not that I fault them for trying, and not that I think it might not be achievable. But sometimes, especially as a buyer, you just have to pick which one you like to do better and go with the boat that lends itself a little bit more to that discipline. But that's just one guy's dumb opinion. And if all that seating aft of the motorbox could be easily stowed, I may be eating my words.
Sorry for the long post. Yeah, that wake may grow with more weight in the back. I'm really only interested in the crossover boats from the sidelines. My next boat, if and when that ever happens, will be a closed bow ski machine.1998 Ski Nautique (Red/Silver Cloud), GT-40, Perfect Pass Stargazer 8.0z (Zbox), Acme #422, Tunable Rudder.
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Originally posted by east_tx_skierIt's a distinct possibility on the gas. The weight of seats and gas make a difference without a doubt.
I'll admit that I pull my back seat and run with less fuel for a better wake behind my old boat (and I'm not alone). Not sure what the interior will ultimately look like. It seems like the consensus on the MC forum (if such a thing is possible) is that the wrapped seating makes things a bit too crowded. If it was easily removeable, I could see its usefullness though for long day trips where the emphasis was more on cruising than skiing. Of course, since it's a crossover boat, if you put a tower on it, the wrapped seating would be good when wakeboarding, too.
In my opinion, manufacturers can get a bit carried away with trying to have it both ways, i.e., the perfect wakeboard boat and the perfect slalom boat. Not that I fault them for trying, and not that I think it might not be achievable. But sometimes, especially as a buyer, you just have to pick which one you like to do better and go with the boat that lends itself a little bit more to that discipline. But that's just one guy's dumb opinion. And if all that seating aft of the motorbox could be easily stowed, I may be eating my words.
Sorry for the long post. Yeah, that wake may grow with more weight in the back. I'm really only interested in the crossover boats from the sidelines. My next boat, if and when that ever happens, will be a closed bow ski machine.
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Bumping an old thread. I'm looking for an older V drive that is decent for slalom skiing. I just sold my malibu sunsetter lxi and have started the search for a V drive that can ski. Looking through this thread it appears photos of the ski wakes were posted but they don't show up any more. Can anyone share their slalom experiences behind a 211? Any photos/vids would be great.
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Skiing is fine behind it, but not great (especially compared to todays skiboats). It is good for recreational skiing but if you are focused on running the course it might not be good enough. It is all personal opinion so I suggest you try it for yourself. For that generation V-drive it is about the best you can get but the newer 200 Sport does ski better. Apologies, no pics or vid right now.Last edited by SkiTower; 02-11-2021, 06:13 AM.
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It's decent for recreational skiing, but it's no direct drive. This photo was about 30 mph--was shooting for 32 but it was the first weekend with the boat and didn't have the PP dialed in yet. It's cleaner at 32, and that's about as fast as I go.
I'm happy with it, but I'm almost 40 and never ski a course.
In the mid 20s and lower, it's pretty brutal (the other photo is my son at around 20, or so). My kids (9 and 7) need to learn to ski faster.
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Last edited by MN Ryan; 02-11-2021, 06:50 PM.
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As an owner of a 211 for the past 14 years, my perspective is its a great allround boat with a great ski wake for recreational skiers. However, as mentioned above, at most speeds on long line, the wake is large and quite firm which if you are not cutting/hit with the ski flat will result in a "launch", even at 36. At slower/beginner speeds, the wake is large and can freak out beginners/trip them if they try and sneak over the wake. I can confirm the pics above from MNRyan are accurate.
For what its worth, we've just upgraded to a 2021 GS22, and the wake is softer (but not smaller) on the 22 than either the GS20 or the 211 (or the 200V for that matter). But you can't beat the 211 for all-round multisport usage, family friendly layout and value for money.2021 GS22 - Lovin every minute of it
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I have course skied behind mine. Most of the comments above are correct however I don’t think the wake will be any worse than your sun setter was. I regularly ski behind a Mastercraft X9 and used to own a 97 sport Nautique. I think the 211 wake is every bit as good if not better at 15 off 32-34 mph. Bottom line in my opinion it’s as good as any big (21’) direct drive. Not going to beat the Sport 200 or any small DD.
If you are skiing 23-38 off I think it’s going to be pretty good for you. I wish I could ski at those line lengths!Last edited by MTRBTR; 02-25-2021, 07:53 PM.2006 SV 211 (Sold)
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89 PS 190 (Sold)
05 Fourwinns Horizon 180 (Sold)
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My ski buddy threw the handle yesterday attempting to ski the SV211. Too hard on his knees. Very abrupt hit at 22, 28 and even 32 off because the pylon is 3 feet back.
I wrestled the beast at 35off and actually wasn't a bad set after I got into a rhythm. The hull spray at that line becomes a factor, especially if doing a button-hook end turn.
We are skiing his 1997 TSC1, super cramped in that boat but geez it's a great wake even with all the seats in. PP Classic feels a bit dead on the handle, my only complaint.
We have not taken the SV211 into the course. I don't like my steering feel when center (feels notchy), have a new cable to go in later tho.
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