22' S21 - Dealer Clearing Inventory

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Azaze
    • May 2023
    • 9

    • El Dorado Hills, CA


    #1

    22' S21 - Dealer Clearing Inventory

    I have been reading these forums for a few months and appreciate all of insight. A lot of knowledgeable people sharing. It is very helpful for someone new to this. It is definitely much more active then some of the other brands forums.

    Our local dealer wants to clear their last 22' in stock. We have looked at a number of brands and seeing discounts from MSRP ranging from 15-24% (Malibu, Centurion, Supra). I gather higher interest rates have reduced demand and dealers are offering more "deals." I am curious if this is really a "deal" being offered? We have a deposit down and are taking out on the water Saturday. It is refundable. We are really happy with the size and we like the look (I understand that is not shared by all). We will drop the platinum protection and the dealer originally told us we would get to $137k versus the $141k shown (which includes the platinum protection). I expect to be at $137k before taxes and registration.

    Are there any options missing that anyone feels are big deal? We don't care about a lot of the extras (heated seats, adjustable LED lights, etc.). We have been using my father in laws 50 year boat with nothing extra and have had plenty of fun.

    My only big concern is the engine. We will go to Lake Tahoe on occasion (otherwise lower elevation lakes). Generally just putting around and possibly pulling a tube. We wouldn't wakeboard (maybe surf, although unlikely), on Tahoe. If we change the prop, wouldn't that impact performance when we are in lower elevations? It doesn't seem practical if we go back and forth (90% lower elevation and 10% higher elevation lakes). I would welcome input here?

    This is our first boat. We hope this will last us for a long time and I am a little concerned we might regret the base engine. Coming from a 20' my wife grew up on and we have used for years, this is a big upgrade in space. We don't want to go up to 23' at this time.

    I appreciate any insight offered.

    Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1256.jpg
Views:	827
Size:	99.4 KB
ID:	663910 Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1257.jpg
Views:	820
Size:	91.1 KB
ID:	663911 Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1258.jpg
Views:	797
Size:	35.1 KB
ID:	663912
    Attached Files
  • BasaltRMK
    • Apr 2020
    • 282

    • Basalt, CO

    • 2024 SAN G23 2020 SAN G21 (Sold) 2018 SAN G21 (Sold) 2015 Tigé R20 (sold) 1972 MFG Gypsy-15 Tri-hull (sold)

    #2
    Hey Azaze, welcome. The ZR4 may be a bit underpowered for Tahoe, but I can't imagine it'll be a big issue for putting around, pulling a tube, and some surfing. One thing to note - my home lake is at 8,000' elevation, and we down-prop for Powell and other lower elevation lakes. Switching out the props is a piece of cake and only takes 10 minutes with a prop removal tool. Plus you'll always have a spare in case of emergency. The ZZ6 is a monster at 8,000' with the right prop, so I'm imagining the ZR4 will be fine on Tahoe with the correct prop.

    Don't have any input on S21 prices, but that seems like a decent discount. Best of luck,

    - bob

    Comment

    • shag
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Jul 2003
      • 2217

      • Florida


      #3
      15K for a trailer? Plus over 1k for freight on that trailer? WoW! And I can't believe just 1 pair of speakers are almost $3k... I guess maybe I am out of the loop... I would think its a 2022, they are preparing for 2024's soon - and it probably isn't a popular color (please don't take that the wrong way - I kinda like things more neutral myself too) I would think maybe even another 10-15k off that... Did I say that is crazy for the trailer price ? ugh.. Best of luck and welcome to the Nautique family...

      Comment

      • bturner
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Jun 2019
        • 1576

        • MI

        • 2016 200 Sport Nautique

        #4
        All new top tier ski boats are out of my range these days. We have basically a 3 month season here in the great white north. At my potential use level any boat north of $100K is just not in the play book for me.

        Comment

        • kylant
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • May 2010
          • 538

          • Lake Tahoe

          • 2014 210 2019 GS22, 2017 GS20, 2000 Air Nautique

          #5
          Here are my thoughts. First of all, that dealer is fantastic. They are my dealer.
          The trailer price does seem high. I was quoted 10-12K for a fully loaded boatmate 210 trailer just recently. Can't imaging the s21 trailer is much different.

          I have had the zr4 on a gs20 in Lake Tahoe. It was underpowered. I hated it. Tried 4 different props that summer, it got better, but not great.
          I sold that boat and ordered the gs22 with the H6 (zz6) from the above dealer. That engine is a beast. fully loaded down, at altitude, it has plenty of power.
          more power is never a bad thing. with props, you may be just fine for the occasional trip to Tahoe.
          the zr4 at folsom is just fine

          Comment

          • Azaze
            • May 2023
            • 9

            • El Dorado Hills, CA


            #6
            Thank you all for taking the time out of your day to share your thoughts. I appreciate them.

            BasaltRMK - thanks for sharing the information on changing out the prop. Much easier than I realized.

            shag - no offense taken, my wife and I thought the same thing. We don't hate it, we don't love it. Classic color, we wish it were more modern. Good to know on the trailer.

            bturner - we agree, we have been looking for about a year now. Reading what people paid 3-5 years ago, it is insane how much they went up. At the end of the day, it is what it is. We bought our house 11 years ago, last year a new neighbor paid almost 3x what we paid. We win some and we lose some.

            kylant - fantastic feedback and what I was really concerned about. We hope in the years to come that we spend more time up in Tahoe. It is good to know its limitations. Great to hear about the dealer and the additional thoughts on the trailer.

            Comment

            • dttheel
              • Jan 2014
              • 193

              • Crozet, VA

              • 2023 GS 22 2013 SAN 210 TE - sold

              #7
              Seems like a great deal. The trailer does seem a bit high. I'm paying just under $10k right now for a boatmate to fit my new gs22. But, the boat price is great, especially if you plan to hold on to it for several years. I bought my first boat that way (old new stock) and it worked out fabulously.

              One note, you might want to have them check out the fuel and filters. If that boat has been sitting for over a year and the fuel they put in for testing wasn't ethanol free, it could separate and clog things up. That happened to us. Worth a check so it doesn't ruin one of your first weekends.
              DTT
              2013 SANTE 210

              Comment

              • shag
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Jul 2003
                • 2217

                • Florida


                #8
                Quote removed by Admin for not following the Guidelines for Quoting Previous Posts in a Thread.

                Very good point about the fuel system... They are supposed to tolerate ethanol but we all know ethanol is crap

                Comment

                • mooneywa
                  • Apr 2019
                  • 146

                  • PK, TX

                  • 2020 230

                  #9
                  All things considered (how high the base prices of the S series are) that's a great price. I have a similar color combo on my 230 and I love it. I also have the ZR4 engine and it has tons of power. Fully weighted with a crew, ballast, and extra lead bags I've never wished it had more. I was actually talked out of the bigger engine by our dealer, but our lake is exactly at 1000' elevation. I'd imagine if I'm not loaded down with a massive crew trying to wakeboard all the time at 8000' it would be just fine.

                  Comment

                  • shag
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 2217

                    • Florida


                    #10
                    What does the 'Platinum protection' cover?

                    Comment

                    • Scooter G
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Jan 2022
                      • 1320

                      • On a Lake in Idaho

                      • 2022 G23 ZZ8

                      #11
                      Nice boat, it will probably grow on you over time, definitely a head turner.
                      I'm still trying to get over the $1500 a month for 12 years at 7%. Dang man, that's more than my 1st 2 houses combined (says a guy that has over $140k wrapped up in a boat).

                      Comment

                      • Kenv
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 1070

                        • Texas

                        • 2021 G23 Previous 2015 G21 2010 226 2005 226 2000 Super Air

                        #12
                        Does it come with a spare trailer??

                        Comment

                        • xrichard
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 669

                          • El Dorado Hills

                          • 2023 G23

                          #13
                          RE the trailer, everyone is looking at the "MSRP" before discount. If we apply the discount to the trailer (55,847/197,357 = .283 or 28.3% discount on everything), then you see the real price is $11,587 with shipping.
                          Previous boats:
                          2015 G23
                          2008 SAN 210
                          2002 XStar
                          1995 Sport Nautique

                          Comment

                          • shag
                            1,000 Post Club Member
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 2217

                            • Florida


                            #14
                            Quote removed by Admin for not following the Guidelines for Quoting Previous Posts in a Thread.

                            Still, 12K for a trailer?? And that's discounted.... I guess I just haven't looked at trailers lately.... WoW

                            Comment

                            • filterfish
                              • Jun 2022
                              • 7

                              • California


                              #15
                              We have a 230 with a zz5 (less horsepower but 5 more torque), and have no issue at Lake Almanor surfing or wakeboarding (Tahoe is 7k vs 4.5k). If you are actually just tubing on Tahoe I don’t think it’d be any issue. Superior guys are great by the way. Had an issue with my boat right after purchase and they fixed it no questions.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X