211 hydrogate, 2004 vs. later models.

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  • anthogenol
    • Aug 2006
    • 19



    #1

    211 hydrogate, 2004 vs. later models.

    hi there,

    I bought a 2004 211 recently and made some pictures while it is waiting to go in the water in April.

    I took pictures of the hydrogate at the back and when I compared it to other pictures I had downloaded earlier I noticed a difference in Hull shape right where the hydrogate is placed.

    I guess the other pictures are of a later model.

    Can anyone tell why this is and whether my 2004 model lacks certain qualities?

    If this post should be in technical, sorry and feel free to move it over.

    Regards, P.
  • FatBoy
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Mar 2004
    • 756

    • Eastern North Carolina


    #2
    RE: 211 hydrogate, 2004 vs. later models.

    I had a 2004 and traded it for a 2005. I have seen no difference.
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    • TRBenj
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • May 2005
      • 1681

      • NWCT


      #3
      RE: 211 hydrogate, 2004 vs. later models.

      I dont see a difference. What exactly are you looking at?
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      • anthogenol
        • Aug 2006
        • 19



        #4
        RE: 211 hydrogate, 2004 vs. later models.

        the steel plate to which the "gate" is attached on my boat is straight at the bottom, whereas the later model has two curves on each end going up. As if more whater would flow through the "gate".

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        • ag4ever
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Feb 2004
          • 1180



          #5
          RE: 211 hydrogate, 2004 vs. later models.

          All I can tell is that one gate is up, and one is down. I don't see a difference.

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          • Andrew
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Aug 2005
            • 891

            • Tuscaloosa, AL


            #6
            RE: 211 hydrogate, 2004 vs. later models.

            gotcha, he's talking about the bottom edge of the "baseplate" that mounts to the hull. the 04 has a flat edge at the bottome, where as the yellow one has a "recess" cut into it. (kinda like a little channel)

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            • Mikeski
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Jul 2003
              • 2908

              • San Francisco, CA

              • Current 2005 SV 211, due for upgrade! GS22 or GS24 perhaps? Previous

              #7
              RE: 211 hydrogate, 2004 vs. later models.

              Looks like they just changed the bottom edge from curved to flat to save a little on production. If anything I would think the 2004 design might be more effective since it has a little more plate in the water? Maybe they were afraid that the two curves hanging down below the hull on the 04 design might get bent? Probably an easy change out if it matters or just cut yours straight. I guess it's possible the 05+ design might run a hair faster top end?

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              • WilliamWallace
                • Jul 2006
                • 42



                #8
                RE: 211 hydrogate, 2004 vs. later models.

                The newer model has the curved plate. I assume it is to help the stern sink down and delay planing resulting in bigger wake. I suspect the new model results in a greater variation of the wake shape. I'm not sure if the Nautique design is superior to the Tige design.

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                • anthogenol
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 19



                  #9
                  RE: 211 hydrogate, 2004 vs. later models.

                  thanks guys...
                  I'm still quite interested to know what CC had on their minds when changeing the design and what result they were hoping for. I hope the explanation of the savings on production is indeed the only reason and not any noticed lack of performance.. guess we'll never know.

                  P.

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                  • TRBenj
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • May 2005
                    • 1681

                    • NWCT


                    #10
                    RE: 211 hydrogate, 2004 vs. later models.

                    I still dont see what you guys are talking about. Isnt the sliding portion of the hydrogate outlined in red below?

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                    • nautique95
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 420

                      • Michigan

                      • 1987 SN 2001 1994 SN 1995 Signature Edition 2005 206 Air Limited 2007 SV211 Team

                      #11
                      RE: 211 hydrogate, 2004 vs. later models.

                      Are you sure that the yellow one is a 211? That looks like the TWC hull which are on the Super Airs.

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                      • krs0394
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 170

                        • Sturgis, MI


                        #12
                        RE: 211 hydrogate, 2004 vs. later models.

                        I think it is just a difference in the height adjustment of the gate. The yellow one is set higher on the back of the boat. Notice the slotted holes that the bolts go through.
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                        • skiinxs
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 374

                          • St. Louis

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                          #13
                          RE: 211 hydrogate, 2004 vs. later models.

                          The only difference I see is that one is in the up position and the other is in the down position. The part with the curve on it is the part that doesn't move. The stlraight piece slides up and down. When it is up you see the curved piece behind it. When it is down it covers the curved piece. Am I missing someting here, there is NO difference.
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                          • nautique95
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 420

                            • Michigan

                            • 1987 SN 2001 1994 SN 1995 Signature Edition 2005 206 Air Limited 2007 SV211 Team

                            #14
                            RE: 211 hydrogate, 2004 vs. later models.

                            The metal mounting plate on the white one is straight across on the bottom, the yellow one if you look at the bottom "ears" on each side, as you move to the middle, tapers up from each side.

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                            • TRBenj
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • May 2005
                              • 1681

                              • NWCT


                              #15
                              Re: RE: 211 hydrogate, 2004 vs. later models.

                              Originally posted by nautique95
                              The metal mounting plate on the white one is straight across on the bottom, the yellow one if you look at the bottom "ears" on each side, as you move to the middle, tapers up from each side.
                              I dont think so. You cant see the mounting plate on the white boat because the hydrogate is in the down position.

                              I agree with skiinxs.
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