Weight in the bow

[vaden01]

Wanting to add some weight to the bow of my 02 SAN. Are there any sacs that will fit under the front seats? Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.

[FritzB141]

RE: Weight in the bow

Have you checked out ballast on wakeside.com? Fly High makes a V-shaped sac that's designed to fit under the bow storage. I know some nautiques are a little shallow on storage depth in the bow (my 211 for instance) but you dont have to fill it all the way. There is a plethora of sac designs to work with. The good old waterbed days are over. Hope that helps.

Fritz

[DALTONHOUSE]

Hey Vaden - I added 350lb's (170kg) to the nose of my 210 and it made a huge improvement. Rather then losing the space with sacs, I decided to do it with lead. There are pro's and cons

Pros
- Don't have to fill up and empty
- They don't consume the ever critical 210 storage space

Cons
- You have to tow it around all the time
- It's pretty expensive

If I remember I will take a shot of it in place over the weekend and post a pic so you can get an idea of the space it consumes.

Cheers

[hyperlite28]

I use water softener salt bags. Only about 40lbs ea. but they are cheap and easy to stuff under the bow cushions. I can get 6 in the bow for 240 lbs and cost is under $20.

[OnlyNatique]

weight

I used led weights from a weight set. Put about 250 pounds up front and about 200 in the rear. Made the wake amazing. Perfect ramp, nice and peeky.

[jhiestand]

I used Fly High side sack (250lbs each) in the nose of my SAN for a while and they fit decent, although they wouldn't fill all the way due to the size of the space. They probably filled a little over halfway for about 250ish lbs in the nose. The V-sack from Fly High might be a better option if you want to use water weight up there, but it won't fill all the way.

I've since changed to static weight (lead & a battery) to get my storage space back.

[waterfreak]

I use a multitude of things for weight in the bow. weights from a weight set, Led, and two 90lb bags of sacrete duct taped. It all stays in while trailering, including a full fat sac in the locker(2000 San had no locker bag).

[NautiqueJeff]

I use a multitude of things for weight in the bow. weights from a weight set, Led, and two 90lb bags of sacrete duct taped. It all stays in while trailering, including a full fat sac in the locker(2000 San had no locker bag).

You might want to check the weight limit on your trailer. Sounds like you might be cutting it close.

[waterfreak]

True, but it's a tandem axle and I have no idea how much additional weight is in it? i have been trailering it like that for about four years now and no problems. Everytime i take to SECC, Jim and Woody also tell me i'm crazy, but I've known them since I was born, so I just nod and laugh!

[vaden01]

Thanks to everyone for the helpful tips!

[wakejunky]

I ordered a custom triangle fat sac from GetHighSports and I'm currently plumbing and wiring. Still waiting for a few parts. I used to carry about 200# in lead but, wanted to lighten the load especially since it's added tongue weight when trailering. Also, this is much more versatile for when people are sitting up front.
Parts cost: Fat Sac $139
Blue Simer pump: $75
Tubing: ~ $20
Wiring/switches/relays: $15
Fittings: ~ $15

Chris

[texasfletch]

I have an 05 210 TE, and I have 540 lbs of pop bags...14 bags total.

http://www.pop-products.com

I'm sure they've been talked about on here a number of times, but they're 40lb vinyl bags(with handles) with really small steel shot in them. You can easily fit them just about anywhere in the boat....they mold to the shape of the smaller spaces. So....if I have a lot of people in the boat...I'll put the majority of those bags in the nose under the seats....I can easily fit up to 12 of them in the nose with tons of room to spare. I'll keep 2 or 3 in the main cabin area to balance out the wake...so people can sit where they want. They're soft, so people don't smash their toes on them...and they're really easy to move around quickly.

When we load the boat on the trailer....we move around 8 of the 12 bags just in front of the rear seat so that they are positioned over the trailer axles when loaded up...and so there isn't too much weight in the nose. My dealer says that my trailer is rated to handle my boat with the stock ballast full, so I don't worry about the extra 540 lbs.

The cool thing is that we can still have a lot of peeps on the boat...all while keeping the bow sac free. I don't personally feel that you can get enough water ballast to fit under the seats.

Sometimes we'll still throw an extra sac across the bow cushions...and we won't put so many of the pop-bags up front.

[Deester]

I second the Pop Bags. Just got mine, and they are great. Fit anywhere and easy to move.

[rickharp]

do the pop bags get moist or condensate or get wet and rust. i always find water under my seat cushions.

[texasfletch]

do the pop bags get moist or condensate or get wet and rust. i always find water under my seat cushions.

the steel shot is in a sealed plastic bag which is contained in the vinyl bag. the plastic bag with shot has some sort of oil mixed in it(not a lot) to prevent rust....

The bags certainly don't hold water, but mine do get a little wet because of the occasional water over the bow. Not that big of a deal....every couple of weeks I'll move the bags around and wipe them off...allowing the floor to dry up. I'll typically place some of those anti-moisture damp-rid containers in my boat when I'm not using it...and that really seems to help. All of this is a little bit of extra work, but it's certainly worth it considering the benefits.

If you're not sure about the pop-bags....a good idea would be to find a buddy or two to split a smaller order of bags. Even if you don't have a bunch of them....they're AWESOME to use for balancing out the boat.

Troy from Pop-products is a cool guy.....he has a good reputation for customer service. Two of my bags were damaged by the shipping company...I told him about it....and he IMMEDIATELY sent out 2 replacement bags with some extra plastic and vinyl bag replacements in case I ever needed them.