Danger in weighting a boat?

[CAN'TSKI]

Like the expectant father or mother reading books on child-rearing, I am occupying my time worrying about my 211 delivery. Your posts on driving an inboard were great. What happens to the boat when I add a bunch of weight? Does it get tippy when you turn? What about weighting one side heavily for surfing? How do you know when the boat is leveled well for a good wakeboard wake? Let me have it experts. I need to raise this 211 properly.

[Mikeski]

RE: Danger in weighting a boat?

The 211 is quite sensitive to weight. Placement is more important than quantity. I like a steep booty wake like a 210. Run the center tank no more than 1/2 full, fill the back tanks and add a little extra and you are good. Keep people out of the bow for boarding. I run 23-24mph and the wake is good for me.

For surfing I run the center tank full and one rear corner full plus moving the passengers to the side I surf. When your surfer falls just stop before your turn and you will be good. Clubmyke is a little more serious with surfing and runs lots of weight, he needs to be more careful.

[Fast351]

RE: Danger in weighting a boat?

+1 to what Mikeski said. It doesn't take much weight to get a good wake on a 211. Make sure you're in enough water though. I tried wakesurfing with 3 people plus rider on a lake that's only about 6.5' deep, and it was tough to even get in the curl and hold.

Then moved out into the river which was 12' deep, with only two people in the boat, and the wake was massive. Easy as pie to ride in the curl.

With wakeboarding, we have more than enough wake with the stock ballast, but then I'm no pro rider either.

As for turning, it's good practice to come off plane before turning anyway (doesn't screw up the lake by creating off axis waves). Then just return to the rider at low throttle.

[CAN'TSKI]

I figured there might be some finesse involved in doing this safely, especially the surfing part. I ran across this pic of clubmyke. That is incredible. It also looks like a capsizer if you don't know what you are doing.

[Rick]

I hope Clubmike will weigh in on this issue. If not I know there has been alot of weight discussion on this site and wakeworld. I beleive in one of them Mike has laid out how to get this wake. It's not all that hard and I have driven his boat when it surfed like this. One rail is close to the water but you just have to be careful not to make any sudden turns to that side. manuverability and stability are still excellent.

[Fast351]

Good lord that wake is massive. I remember reading clubmyke's posts when I was shopping for our new ride and seeing that pic, I was amazed. That's pretty sweet :grin:

[clubmyke]

here is my set up... a lot has to do with the type of weight and where it is placed... my setup will change depending on how many people i have on the boat (this is my setup with a total of 3 people )

here is my setup for the goofy side(wakegate set for 2 1/4 and pp set in rpm mode @2825)

-8 pop products bags lined along the inside rear locker
-275 lb fly high sac in rear locker
-275 lb rear locker factory ballast
-150 lb fat buddy on cooler seat (if a 4th is present- i will not use this)
-275 lb fly high fat sac along side the cooler seat lengthwise
-4 pop product bags along driver
-4 pop products bags in starboard bow
-150 lb fat buddy on starboard bow seat

the steel shot bags (pop products) are totally required... they really clean up the wake and give it drive...this has been confirmed on other boats (shannon's bu(walzer surfboards) , ben's x-45, and many others..

a total of 1740 lbs and pretty light imo for a world class surf wake - caddywampus has been in 4 video with the local surf manufactures (they refer to it as "the launch pad")..

this is a really light weight when compared to other boats set up for surf.. i have ridden behind x-stars, centurions, and bu's that run a excess of 3000 lbs in ballast PLUS 8-10 people...

btw, the boat is pretty safe and handles well imho..

[clubmyke]

here are some pics of my setup and the walzer folks(awesome surfboards !!!!))

[CAN'TSKI]

I wonder if CC knows how essential and informative this site is to their new customers. I shudder to think of the mistakes I could make as a new inboard driver who will certainly challenge my capabilities and those of the boat (because of my inexperience). Your input makes me proud to be a Nautique owner, and I won't even have the boat for several weeks. Ok, that's enough. I need a tissue.

[clubmyke]

here is bens x-45 with about 3700 lbs in ballst plus 8 people !!!

This is one big wake !!!

[clubmyke]

another one behind the x-45

[noti_dad]

I've added bags on top of the stock rear tanks and rino-lined steel block in the nose under the center bow cushion, doubling the stock ballast weight and re-propped it with the 1234. Handles like it does with nothing in it. No chine locking, tipping/rolling. We tried more weight and it did nothing. Seems this boat has a limit and once you hit it you can't do any better. Placing more in the front will ramp it out and more in the back will make it more vert. The additional weight just seems to add to the thickness/meat of it. I love the boat and the best thing is hearing the stoke from guys that have never ridden it. Everyone seems to love the wake. Jonfo is another weighted 211 owner, maybe he'll chime in.

[CAN'TSKI]

The 211 has a capacity of 1300+ lbs. or 9 people. What does the game warden say when you have 8 peeps and 900lbs of water and pop sacks in the boat. For all you wise guys, I'm really not looking for funny quotes from wardens. Is it legal to have over the capacity? We have a big enforcement presence at our lake.

[noti_dad]

I've got around 900lbs extra and you seriously can't tell it's there. You can see it in the wake when riding but it's not any freak swell that's going to be seen from a mile away. However listing a boat to starboard like Caddy's, might give you away. If it's even for riding, I doubt anyone can tell.

[WakeSlayer]

my understanding is that the tag is a recommendation, not a "legal" limit.