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[Rick]

I bow before the mighty Skinautique. You can get your boat to go either way in reverse. Your either really old or have spent hours and hours behind the wheel :o 8)

[AbunDiga909]

Going right in reverse isn't always as hard as it seems. I've done it many times. They may have not been done purposely... :oops: but it was done. :lol: I think the trick is to go real slow in reverse with the wheel turned to the right all the way, and once it starts going to the right, then you can pick up the speed a little. But I also find it that you cannot do it really if your already turning left.

Skinautique, please explain how CC's unique prop rotation direction helps keep the boat straight, and how it works with torque. I know CC's prop is different from all other companies, but wouldn't it just make the boat swirve more to the left, oppose to the right?

[skinautique]

You guys are right, it is RH when in Forward. Sorry to confuse everyone.
Abundiga, I will try to explain this but not so sure it will sound right. In a majority of the inboards, when you take off (the faster you do it, the more noticeable it is) you can feel the boat pull harder to one side. With the CC setup, this is minimized if you will.

[AbunDiga909]

Skinautique, I understand that part. This is probably a very complicated question and I shouldn't really be asking it, but how does the rotation of the prop minimize the pull to one side? I don't see how that would decrese the pull oppose to make it go to the other side. You said something about torque and that threw me off...

[skinautique]

if you have an engine and a transmission that turn in the same direction, you are naturally going to have more pull in that direction on take off. If you have an engine that turns one way and a transmission that turns the other, you counter act it and get less of that pull over on take off.
Rick, I am not that old but I have spent a TON of hours behind the wheel!

[ag4ever]

If the engine spins counter clock wise, and the trans thru the prop spins clock-wise, the rotational momnnts of the two should help to cancell each other out. it gets a little more complicated than that, but that is the basic Idea.

Now, How does that work on my V-Drive SANTE?

Since the engine is backwards, should the prop not turn counter clockwise to counteract the torque of the engine?

[skinautique]

Not positive but I think the vdrive on the boat has some effect in helping out this situation. CC uses a seperate vdrive unit as opposed to a combo like MC and MB Boats uses so I am only guessing that has something to do for it.

[AbunDiga909]

Skinautique, age4ever, thanks, now its all good...

age4ever, wouldn't it be the same in a V-Drive because even though the engine is backwards, the direction of the shaft is switched, so they each cancel each other out again??

[ag4ever]

Nope, the shaft is not backwards, that is why it is a v-drive. If the shaft was backwards, then it would have LH rotation.

I can't imagine that the v-drive unit would counter act the rotation that is generated by the engine and the shaft.

I was told that the reason it has reverse rotation (actuall correct rotation) is to prevent you from running over your skier when you come to a stop by them.

When you pull up to them to give instruction, and throw it in reverse to come to a stop, the back end actually walks away fom them instead of walking towards them in a MC. Try it when you are on the lake next time.

[AbunDiga909]

ag4ever, in our friends MC, we take advantage of that "feature," although it sounds stupid. What we do is we approach slowly, do most of our "reversing" before we approach the skier, and then tap it into reverse when we reach the skier, and the stern appears magically within fingers reach of the skier. Everything goes well as long as you don't do it too fast. I guess one would get used to whatever the prop rotation their boat has over time...

[NautiBoy]

Wow this thread has come along way since my last reply - I am also Liquidream!

Hey I followed up on the trailer options and my dealer thanks to the info on this thread. We are getting the Ramlin in black to match the stripe on our 211 (Red Haul with Black Stripe and Red tower - 4 black Titan Bullet speakers). The trailer has diamond plate instead of the the carpet and wood and stainless fenders. This should be a sweet trailer. Thanks for all of your direction on this thread guys - great stuff.

Also, for those interested - the diamond plate on a Ramlin comes in only painted steal, no stainless or aluminum diamond plate available. This package will do great carrying the 3900 pound tank of a boat.

[igkya]

Just picked-up my trailer (BoatMate) last week. Boat should be ready next week. Here's a few pics...

[SANfan]

Two cents here...

My RamLin has been great, it's a single axle.

The hub lube system that jhiestand mentioned is used by a number of people and was orginally developed by a company called EZ-lube. It's actually (my opinion) far superior to the Bearing buddies because when you put the grease gun on the spindle and pump, grease is forced out between the inner bearing and the hub seal, through both bearings, and then out the front of the hub. Once a year, put a gun on it and pump until clean grease comes out, and you've repacked the bearings. With Bearing Buddies, added grease just gets stacked on top of what's already there, and the only way to repack the bearings is to disassemble the hubs. Correct me if I'm wrong, Bearing Buddy fanatics!

People at CC that I've talked to say the right hand rotation is used because most of the time the driver is alone in the boat, and since RH (CW from the rear) props tends to try to twist the boat CCW, the driver's weight offsets physics. This phenomena is probably much more evident in a boat without 2,000# of lead and water in it, so I'll defer to the slalom skiers for the definitive word. It's also tradition, CC has been building RH drive boats since 1925. As far as backing, RH boats back left easier and LH boats back right, no secret there. When a rider signals done, I will typically put him 10' - 15' off the port side, and a measured shot of reverse at the right time will put the platform in his hands. Although I never lose sight of my rider, the LH drivers can (as someone noted) pull this same trick bringing the rider down the starboard (driver's ) side, although sometimes they're a bit close for comfort.

[Wakeslave]

Here is the link.


http://www.eagletrailer.com/

Eagle trailers are Out-Of-Business

I tried to call the Northern Indiana distributor for Eagle..and was told they are no longer in business. FYI.

Wakeslave

[FatBoy]

They are not out of buissness. I just left the website and found this posted, I called them and asked them if they were going out of buissness and was told no they are not.

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