2000 SAN Custom Ballast project

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  • Watty
    • Apr 2007
    • 32

    • Centennial, CO

    • 2000 SAN

    #1

    2000 SAN Custom Ballast project

    I decided that I was tired of using manual ballast pumps to fill and empty the sacs on my 2000 Super Air Nautique especially when I was staring at glass the beginning of the day or dog tired at the end of a long day of sessions. Therefore I bit the bullet and decided to do a custom ballast install on the SAN.

    I looked into the various options for ballast pumps including the reversible pumps like Jabsco and Simer as well as the aerator style pumps which required different pumps for both filling and emptying the sacs. I finally decided that the reversible Jabsco pump made the most sense for me due to less fill and empty lines being required and the ease of installing the overall system. I then looked into how many holes I would have to drill in my hull in order to obtain moving a ton of water into or out of the sacs in a timely fashion. I finally decided that (2) ¾” holes made the most sense from a cost perspective and drilled the holes with assistance from my professional carpenter neighbor. I then attached the through hull intakes using 3M 4200 Marine Sealant/Adhesive on both the bottom and top of the hull and attached a 90 degree elbow and a ball valve to each intake. From there I plumbed the lines to the pump.

    Since I have 4 sacs including the (2) V drive sacs, (1) belly sac, and (1) Fly High Integrated Bow sac I need to figure out a way to move the water from (2) pumps to (4) sacs. The simplest methodology seemed to be to use a standard garden hose T valve that has integrated ball valves built into it. This will allow me to empty or fill any sac in the system to the desired fullness as well as empty one side for when I want to wake surf at the end of the day. The Fly High Bow sac is also a little big for my bow so I wanted to be able to shut off this sac from filling once it is half full so it doesn’t push the seats up or expand beyond the available space under the bow seats. I ran the plumbing for the bow sac along the passenger side gunnels and ran the bow sac plumbing above the gas tank by removing the rear seats and floor hatch.

    Then came the wiring which was a lot simpler then I imagined it would be. Basically cut two holes for the ballast switches in the spot where CC would have put the stock ballast switches and then ran the pump wiring in under the gunnels to the switches and then ran the switch power back to my battery. The project basically took me three nights of working from 7 to 10 pm to get completed. The hardest part of the whole project was working in my garage in AZ during the summer where the heat had to be close to 115+ f. Once I got my old circulating fan out of storage and used it while working on the project it got a lot more comfortable.

    I water tested the system on Saturday and I was able to fill all 2000 lbs. of ballast in roughly 7-8 minutes. The best part is that my wife or friends can now fill the system once the boat is in the water and I am parking the truck and trailer and making my way back down to the dock to be picked up. No more staring at glass while waiting for the sacs to fill. The Fly High Bow sac is the bomb and it made my wake a lot beefier and more fun to ride then ever before. On Sunday I used the system for the first time while riding and I am very impressed. I only filled the back sacs half way and the wake was very impressive and my buddy Ryan pulled out his large arsenal of tricks and commented on how much he liked the wake. All in the all the system performed like a champ and I am very happy with how everything turned out. I will try to post some pics of the wake when I get the chance. Hopefully this post will help some fellow wakeboarders out in the design of their ballast systems in the future.
  • wake_fun
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jul 2003
    • 1330

    • CA

    • 1995 Super Sport

    #2
    Looks somewhat familiar...... :mrgreen:
    Photo Album
    Ballast Install 1
    Ballast Install 2
    Amp Install
    PPass Install
    Alternator Install

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    • Watty
      • Apr 2007
      • 32

      • Centennial, CO

      • 2000 SAN

      #3
      Wake_fun - I possibly read your install thread a couple of times. :razz:

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      • wake_fun
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Jul 2003
        • 1330

        • CA

        • 1995 Super Sport

        #4
        :mrgreen: I think it's helped a LOT of people from all the different questions I get.

        Originally posted by Watty
        Wake_fun - I possibly read your install thread a couple of times. :razz:
        Photo Album
        Ballast Install 1
        Ballast Install 2
        Amp Install
        PPass Install
        Alternator Install

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        • Oldmanrider
          • Apr 2007
          • 18



          #5
          Can you help with a similar system for my 2001 SAN

          Purchased 2001 SAN this summer love the boat almost 100 hours already. Hate the balast system. Would love to setup what you did. Is your setup still working out? Have you thought of any improvements? Where are the shut off valves for the different bags? Are they in the open or do you have to open engine compartment to get at? Also do you do have any suggestions to improve the stock balast system. Guages make it a guessing game as to if tanks are full or empty.

          Lots of questions but appreciate any guidiance.

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          • wake_fun
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Jul 2003
            • 1330

            • CA

            • 1995 Super Sport

            #6
            RE: Can you help with a similar system for my 2001 SAN

            The setup is working fine. Look at my signature. I first did install 1 and the updates are shown in install 2. The only shut off valve is the one right at the inlet shown in install 1. I ALWAYS leave it open, I haven't had a reason to shut it yet. With my setup you know when the bags are full because water will start pouring out the vents. You know when each bag is empty because you can hear the pump change pitch (sound).
            Photo Album
            Ballast Install 1
            Ballast Install 2
            Amp Install
            PPass Install
            Alternator Install

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            • Laptom
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Oct 2003
              • 876

              • Eindhoven, Netherlands


              #7
              RE: Can you help with a similar system for my 2001 SAN

              One thing I can think of is changing the pump attachment. They are upside down right now and it seems like you'll have to unscrew the pumps if you want to change the impeller, or, what happens quite often, when you want to clean the impeller when it's stuck.
              230 with ZR6 running on propane

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              • wake_fun
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Jul 2003
                • 1330

                • CA

                • 1995 Super Sport

                #8
                RE: Can you help with a similar system for my 2001 SAN

                Laptom is right about the second picture.
                If you keep it mounted to the same wall though, you will also need to switch the wires on your switch so the pump runs the right way.
                Photo Album
                Ballast Install 1
                Ballast Install 2
                Amp Install
                PPass Install
                Alternator Install

                Comment

                • Oldmanrider
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 18



                  #9
                  RE: Can you help with a similar system for my 2001 SAN

                  Thanks for all your input so far. Once the November day in New England set in I guess I will have a project to start on.

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                  • RCHANDED
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 92

                    • CT- Lake Lillinonah & Candlewood Lake


                    #10
                    Maybe a silly question, but does the water exit through the same inlet fitting under the boat, or do you guys have the water exiting above the water line?

                    thks

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                    • Laptom
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 876

                      • Eindhoven, Netherlands


                      #11
                      Inlet = Outlet. Same hole.
                      230 with ZR6 running on propane

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