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  • Rangertrace
    • Jun 2007
    • 48

    • Athens, Texas


    #1

    210 VS 211

    Can anyone tell me how much of a difference there is between a 210 and 211 wake, assuming they were weighted about the same. I have a 211 and it seems to be a great all around boat, but I have to really work at getting a wake rampy enough that I can clear both wakes. Granted, this is only my second season for wakeboarding (I still suck). I guess what I am asking is, is there enough difference between the two wakes to make it worth the trouble of trading the 211 for the 210. I know I need to take a 210 for a test ride, but I have not talked my wife into trading yet.
  • clubmyke
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Sep 2004
    • 414

    • so cal


    #2
    how r u weighing your 211 ?

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    • tdc_worm
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Feb 2004
      • 532



      #3
      somebody with bad technique wont be able to clear either wake. somebody with good technique will be able to clear a bass boat wake. either wake will get you where you want to go as your technique improves...

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      • jonfo
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Jul 2003
        • 385

        • Bellevue, WA

        • 1990 SN 2016 G23

        #4
        i dont think changing boats will help you clear the wake. clearing the wake depends on rider ability, rope length, boat speed, wake size. assuming you cant quickly change your ability, just to clear it i would recommend shortening the rope and speeding up a little bit.
        -Jon
        16 G23
        07 220 TE
        05 211 TE
        95 SS (210)
        89 SN

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        • dabigkahuna
          • Sep 2004
          • 125



          #5
          The 211 has a great wake whem weighted properly. Stock ballast on a Team plus 6 adults, and the wake is great.

          Hijack...I was acutally curious as to how the new 210 compares to the 211. I heard they have somewhat similar wakes, is this true?

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          • Rangertrace
            • Jun 2007
            • 48

            • Athens, Texas


            #6
            Thanks for the input. My 211 is a limited with only 2 ballast tanks. I fill them and have several friends in the boat as well. I'm able to clear the wakes most of the time, my landings are what stink. In fact, just today, I landed about 5 feet out into the flat and tore my left ACL. So, it will be next summer before I get to work on my technique again. I think I will start next season with a few professional lessons and make the most of the 211 wake.

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            • Laptom
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Oct 2003
              • 876

              • Eindhoven, Netherlands


              #7
              You'll need weight in the front of that boat. With just the rear tanks you'll need around 200-300lbs in the ski locker for a nicely shaped wake.
              230 with ZR6 running on propane

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              • dabigkahuna
                • Sep 2004
                • 125



                #8
                Originally posted by Rangertrace
                TIn fact, just today, I landed about 5 feet out into the flat and tore my left ACL.
                Wow, sorry to hear that, are you sure you actually tore the ACL? Did you get an MRI? If not, you may have just tweaked your knee wrong and need to give it some time to heal.

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                • Rangertrace
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 48

                  • Athens, Texas


                  #9
                  Originally posted by dabigkahuna
                  Originally posted by Rangertrace
                  TIn fact, just today, I landed about 5 feet out into the flat and tore my left ACL.
                  Wow, sorry to hear that, are you sure you actually tore the ACL? Did you get an MRI? If not, you may have just tweaked your knee wrong and need to give it some time to heal.
                  Yes, unfortunately the MRI confirmed the torn ACL as well as a hairline fracture in the fibia. I've made it 38 years without an injury that required a cast or surgery. Oh well, I was having a great time, just before I landed! I guess PN will be my only Nautique fix for the next several months!

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                  • jeffk
                    • May 2006
                    • 91



                    #10
                    You need to run extra bags in the rear lockers and an extra bag in the ski locker. They can be plumbed into the excisting system. I have never had anyone not like my boat (professionals, Jimmy Redman, Tony Finn etc.) It is not the boat. Almost everyone runs extra weight in their 210 and very few seem to run extra weight in the 211. Set the boat up where it is just not purposing and you will have a very good wake.

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                    • jeffk
                      • May 2006
                      • 91



                      #11
                      btw I see you are in Athens, if you want to see the difference in your boat and mine with the extra weight let me know and we can take a quick trip to the lake. Jeff

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                      • dabigkahuna
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 125



                        #12
                        Hey Jeff, I'm curious, how do you weight your 211?

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                        • Rangertrace
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 48

                          • Athens, Texas


                          #13
                          jeffk,

                          I would like to see the difference in the wakes. I'm off from work for the next 6 or 7 weeks, so let me know when you want to go. Next Friday I will have the surgery. So, before that, or a few weeks after would be great. Which Lake do you use? Email me or PM if you want to set it up.

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                          • Zeda
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 26



                            #14
                            Rangertrace...I feel the pain with you. On 7/7/07 (13 is my new lucky number), I blew my ACL behind my CC220 the same way you did. I landed between 5 to 10 feet into the flats (perfect landing) and my knee just said enough is enough and popped. The MRI confirmed major disruption to the ACL and contusions to the bone structures around the joint. I have surgery towards the end of October.....too much surfing and mountain biking to be had before the snow falls here in Utah. Like you, I managed to avoid this type of injury for 37 years.

                            Good luck with your PT and recovery. BTW, I think the 211 is a great boat with a great boarding wake. I landed my first tantrum behind a 211. Plus you can slalom with a pretty good wake. Also, you may want to lengthen your rope if you are regularly landing in the flats or take a smaller cut heelside if your toeside edge isn't quite there.

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                            • airhuck
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 187

                              • alabama

                              • 2001 SAN 2009 SANTE

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rangertrace
                              , I landed about 5 feet out into the flat and tore my left ACL. .
                              that sucks! at least you did it at the end of the summer. i broke my tibia in my knee the last week of may on a back roll. spent all summer pulling people in my new SANTE. got good parking spaces though...

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