Is a ZR6 too much for a SV-211?

[Noelb]

From other posts I read, it seems that the 330EX is plenty powerful for a 211.

However as I know Myself, we'll want to weight the boat more and more to get a bigger and better wake. On a typical day we will be 3 adults in the boat, plus the rider. Not sure how much weight we'll have to add, but from what I've read, it seems that 250 on each side of the engine plus something in the front (how much?) might do the job.

I want to be sure that I won't regret my engine choice. In this situation, will a ZR6 become neccessary? I don't need the rider to get his arms pulled out from his body on every takeoff, but I sure don't want to have to accelerate for like 30 seconds at each takeoff either.

I'm not too crazy about upgrading to a ZR6, not so much for the cost, but I have the impression that it adds nothing to the resale value of a 211.

For comparison, my friend has a (MC) X-2 2007 with a 350 engine. With three adults and stock ballast, we add two 250lb in the rear and about 500 in the front for best results. We noticed that as you begin to add people, not only does the boat start to struggle on takeoff, but also the wake begins to wash out and doesn't get any bigger. As if there is a maximum weight above which there is no point adding more.

[RLS]

RE: Is a ZR6 too much for a SV-211?

I have never heard anyone say I wish I had less power. That said I just picked up my 211 and think it has plenty of power. I think it is a matter of finding the correct prop for what you do. I have the ACME 1235 and I think with it on you could pull anything out of the water. The top end suffers. With the ACME 381 great top end but a little slow out of the hole with weight in the boat. I am now looking for the middle ground. I think with the larger engine you would have a wider range with a larger prop.

[dabigkahuna]

RE: Is a ZR6 too much for a SV-211?

I have a 2005 211 TE w/ ZR6. I think the engine is upgrade is great, and probably would upgrade again if I were to buy another boat. The ZR6 is very quite and is very smooth. As far as resale value, I would argue that the ZR6 adds value to the boat, as it is a well respected engine.

Weight wise, the 211 is like the X-2, it only improves with weight to a certain point, then it starts to get worse. I would say that 1,500 lbs. (people and/or ballast) is about the limit for weight over and above the stock ballast.

[Justin1933]

RE: Is a ZR6 too much for a SV-211?

I personally don't think it is worth the extra cash...I have the 330EX and run a stock ballast and and additional 1500 worth of weight with no issues. I did change my prop to the 1234 (05 211 TE), and it did help a lot.

Save your money, and buy a new prop and some POP bags, and you will be set...Or better yet, spend your money on some lessons...Lessons are really the best money you can spend...

[MJB]

GET THE ZR6

Dude,

Get the ZR6. It's not even a question.

[wakecrashin]

RE: GET THE ZR6

With Perko Flush kit, even with a heater installed, you winterization proecess is 3 mins long w/ a ZR6

[Mikeski]

RE: GET THE ZR6

If I were to do it over again my 211 would have the ZR6, but I barefoot. It's fine for 90% of my needs but leaves me wanting more 10% of the time. Definately not worth starting over but if I had to it would be with the ZR6. The exhaust manifold upgrade on my EX330 helped, the aluminum manifold EX330 is even lighter than the ZR6, something to think about for slalom skiers...

[AbunDiga909]

Re: GET THE ZR6

Dude,

Get the ZR6. It's not even a question.

nuff said

"too much power" is like saying my wake is too big... doesn't exist

[MJB]

Is a ZR6 too much for an SV-211?

Aba is dead on. For that matter, call Woody at SECC and tell him to find a python lying in a crate somewhere, rip that Exc out of there and you'll be set :-)

****, why stop there? Modify the engine compartment, drill some holes in the hull and figure out a way to through two ZR6's in there and make the first SV-211 STS (or as Mastercraft likes to call it "Secondary Turn Screw") :-)

Wait, I actually think I'm on to something for '09 model line up...a crossover 276 with hybrid FCT / T Top / Tuna Tower. Of course the ballast system can be used for both ballast and live well system.

[tdc_worm]

RE: Is a ZR6 too much for a SV-211?

I will say it:

I WISH I HAD LESS POWER.

If I did, then I would have the cash back for the upcharge, I would use less fuel, and I wouldnt get killed on resale. Put the optimal prop on the boat and save yourself some cabbage...

[Noelb]

RE: Is a ZR6 too much for a SV-211?

TDC, are you weighing your boat very much when you wakeboard? (note: I don,t really have any interest in wakesurfing).

[tdc_worm]

RE: Is a ZR6 too much for a SV-211?

i have a 220, which weighs about 4070lbs (according to CCs webside). the 211 weighs 3500 lbs. i run stock plus about 2k lbs before gear and people. i have the zr6 w/ 1234 prop. i got the zr6 because that was all the dealer had in stock. i have been in boats with big engines and small engines, and the ones that perform the best are the ones that have the appropriate prop.

do you believe in CC? do you think they would put out an inferior product? if the 330 is an underperformer, you have have to ask yourself what other shortcuts did CC make on your boat. the 330 performs, just put the appropriate prop on it.

[Noelb]

RE: Is a ZR6 too much for a SV-211?

With Perko Flush kit, even with a heater installed, you winterization proecess is 3 mins long w/ a ZR6

Tell me more!

[AbunDiga909]

Re: RE: Is a ZR6 too much for a SV-211?

the 330 performs, just put the appropriate prop on it.

yes, i dont think the majority thinks the 330 is underpowering anything... its just preference... the 330 performs, the ZR6 performs more...

moomba's perform too (in that they make a wake)... nautiques perform more.... same logic

[tdc_worm]

Re: RE: Is a ZR6 too much for a SV-211?

the 330 performs, just put the appropriate prop on it.

yes, i dont think the majority thinks the 330 is underpowering anything... its just preference... the 330 performs, the ZR6 performs more...

moomba's perform too (in that they make a wake)... nautiques perform more.... same logic

i guess the question i was answering was "is the 330 enough" as opposed to "is the zr6 too much", which is what he asked. you're right, you can never have too much power. my opinion on the zr6, at least for how i use it, is that it offers no advantage over the 330 from a seat of the pants feel. to try to quantify it, if my zr6 performed at 100% for my use, the 330 would ring in at 99% performance level, but i would gladly trade that back for the $4k plus upgrade and decreased fuel useage.