SV 211 wake

[Rangertrace]

RE: 211 wake

OK, I'm going to show my ignorance. Could someone explain what the 15 off, 22 off etc. means? I understand the speed part, but don't have a clue as to what the X off means. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the rope length. I have a 211 and may be trying to ski next season instead of wakeboarding. Thanks.

[MikeC]

Rangertrace,
The xx off does refer to the line length. A ski line used for competition is made up of a number of smaller lines so you can continue to shorten the line length to make skiing the course more difficult. The ski line is 75 feet long and each loop on the line shortens it by a predetermined distance, they are color coded so you don't have to carry your ruler, plus the judges can see the rope color (they also put a flag up on the boat that is the same color). The red loop is 15 off (leaving 60 feet line length); orange is 22 off (53 feet line); yellow: 28 off; green: 32 off; blue: 35 off; violet: 38 off; neutral: 39.5 off; pink: 41 off; black: 43 off. Just as a point of reference it is about 36 feet from the center of the ski course to the buoy, so anything beyond 38 off the handle doesn't reach the buoy.

[Rangertrace]

Thanks for the lesson. I won't have to scratch my head quite so often now!!

[rickharp]

RE: 211 wake

I'm a 50 year old that foots, ski course, wake boards and wake surfs. only have had the 211te 07', but i can only make 4 bouys on the boat, with 0 off and 28, where on the wave runner, i never miss a bouy. so, i ski the course on the waverunner, and enjoy the wake and the layout of the 211 (walk to platform is nice). i am a 80-20 too, so the wave runner is fine for my 20%. it's just for fun anyways. the wake on the 211, at that speed is an obstacle. i know it goes down quite a bit at higher speeds, and i heard putting ballasts up front helps, but its not worth the trouble when the waverunner is sitting right there.

[Fast351]

Re: RE: 211 wake

I'm a 50 year old that foots, ski course, wake boards and wake surfs. only have had the 211te 07', but i can only make 4 bouys on the boat, with 0 off and 28, where on the wave runner, i never miss a bouy. so, i ski the course on the waverunner, and enjoy the wake and the layout of the 211 (walk to platform is nice). i am a 80-20 too, so the wave runner is fine for my 20%. it's just for fun anyways. the wake on the 211, at that speed is an obstacle. i know it goes down quite a bit at higher speeds, and i heard putting ballasts up front helps, but its not worth the trouble when the waverunner is sitting right there.

Yeah the wake at 28 is brutal. At 0 off, I would probably try 34 minimum. 32 MPH at 15 off is where the wake starts to flatten a little.

At 36 the wake is pretty flat. It doesn't really start to clean up until you hit 32 tho, and every MPH is a noticable improvement.

[Mikeski]

RE: Re: RE: 211 wake

The 211 hull is very sensitive to weight placement. Running unloaded and balanced side to side at 32MPH+ at 15 or 28off (just skip 22 to avoid the hump) the wake is not bad at all. If there is much payload it's pretty bad even at speed.

[HS]

RE: Re: RE: 211 wake

Thanks for the info on line length for slalom. On the SV 211 TE, what setup do you like best for wakeboarding?

[Noelb]

RE: Re: RE: 211 wake

I just got my 211 in October and man, the WB wake is sweet, sweet, and re-sweet! What I like best about this wake is that it's firm and the shape is just perfect - not too steep, not too rampy. The TS jumps are especially pleasing compared to other boats I've tried like an X-2, X-Star, Bu Xti, Moomba.

With about 3 to 5 adults in the boat I find that just the factory ballast alone will do an amazing job. With 1-2 adults, I'm wishing for a little more. I'll probably plumb a 250# bag over each rear tank and that should be enough. Unfortunately, she's already gone to storage for the winter so that'll have to wait till spring. It's gonna be a long winter...

[HS]

RE: Re: RE: 211 wake

Small world. In Oct. we got a 211 TE ZR-6 having looked at the 196/206/216. We are long time skiers and now just into WB. What line length and speed are you enjoying most for WB?

[Fast351]

RE: Re: RE: 211 wake

Line length and speed depend largely on experience. I've been at it for several years, and like 75' and 23 MPH. Beginners do better with a shorter line and slower speed.

It seems you need to get to 21 MPH before you have enough speed to really get decent air.

[Noelb]

RE: Re: RE: 211 wake

Personal preference and tolerence to pain.

For Myself and a friend who's a little better than I am, we go with a 65' plus handle =70'. I prefer 22.2 MPH, he prefers 22MPH. I've also tried 23 MPH with a 70' plus handle (=75'). It's really great there too, but I don't recommend it if you're trying new tricks as I have found the falls to be way too punishing! It's just a way different boat at that length! Steeper (surprising, no?), harder, you need more speed to cross the wakes, you get way more height, so the landings can get really hard on those knees.

My wife prefers a 55' plus handle at 21.5MPH.

Another buddy rides at 21.7 @ 75'.

Yeah, and we've just been able to use it for like two week-ends so far, so next year we'll do more exeprimenting, including trying out the wakeplate (or whatever it's called) at different settings.

Oh, and one last factor: We're all in our late thirties, so we are trying to preserve our knees!

Enjoy!

[HS]

RE: Re: RE: 211 wake

Thanks for the info, it will help me get dialed in when spring weather rolls around. We just had our SV-211 TE delivered Oct. 21 and had some spectacular days recently to take her out. Now she's winterized and waiting. From what I've read so far, it seems lots of guys have spent more time figuring out line lengths and speed for the perfect slalom wake (or to minimize the wake). Are you finding that for WB purposes with the 211 it is easy to manipulate and size the optimimum wake?

[Noelb]

RE: Re: RE: 211 wake

Let me put it this way: If I didn't waterski, I still would have bought the 211. The wake can be shaped very easily by moving the weight (people?) around. Plus there is the wakeplate to help, and it really makes a big difference on the wake shape (believe it or not, especially for wakesurfing!). I don't know about other models, but I figure that with a larger boat (like the 220 or 226), weight distribution would not have as much influence.

As far as size goes, yes adding more weight did have a huge impact on making the wake bigger. We didn't push it to the max yet, but just by going from one to 5 adults on board, it was a world of difference.

Cheers.

[noti_dad]

RE: Re: RE: 211 wake

HS & Noel - I've loaded a custome 250 sac from flyhigh over each rear tank plus another 100 in lead, and 100 in lead under the bow seat cushioins. That and 4-5 adults is an awesome wake. It will not leave you wanting more. It is the most underrated wake out there. everyone that gets behind it loves it. I don't mind overusing it in our rotation of boats (which includes a older weighted SAN and 2 weighted VLX Malibus). I'm able to unload the lead for skiing first then load it for boarding after we are done skiing. If I wasn't able I'd just do without the extra lead and would still have a GREAT wake. I think the 211 will become a very sought after boat in the next few years. The secret is starting to get out.

[Mikeski]

RE: Re: RE: 211 wake

For boarding I run the rear tanks full and the front tank at 3/4 with two pop-products 40lb bags toward the back on whatever side needed to balance the wake (again the boat is sensitive side-to-side, I go to great pains to run it balanced). For slalom I move the bags to the bow. Weight towards the back makes it steeper, towards the front flatter. I have an additional 500lbs of lead available that I have run at various times but I am happy running it steeper than bigger. I ride at 75-80' at 23-24mph, keep the passengers out of the bow when riding.

I only use stock ballast for surfing too (front tank full, one rear tank). It's very clean at 9.5mph.