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  • east tx skier
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Apr 2005
    • 1561

    • Tyler, TX


    Just installed Stargazer

    Well, after some work with Fed Ex, I picked up my Stargazer upgrade this morning (I had it shipped to the office and we are closed today). This is about the easiest thing I have ever installed. 20 minutes tops. I mounted the antenna with the included velcro right in front of my dash pod and ran the wire underneath. and across to the master module. After that, it's just a matter of reconnecting all the wires. I played with the menus a bit. I am coming from 6.5ng and have gotten pretty used to the menus on the wide gauge over the last couple of years. I've read other reviews from people coming from single line gauges and they seem pretty used to the method of counting the times they hit the menu button to get where they need to be. For someone making that transition, it will take getting used to. But compared to 6.5ng, the menus in SG are much less cluttered. In the off mode, water temp and time are displayed on the main screen along with speed and rpm. In slalom mode, the less cluttered display is much easier to navigate by comparison to 6.5 ng, but, of course, not as intuitive as my coffee maker or TV remote. I try to think of it like r/l click on a computer mouse. There are several shortcuts built in, i.e., down arrow with slalom highlighted will get you crew weight and up arrow will get you to the slalom settings (it used to take you to skier memory, which is still available, but only really useful in classic slalom mode as the variables between two skiers have been reduced.

    Here are a few shots of my antenna mount.







    I got it out on the lake today and was very impressed. System locked on to the satellite within 3--4 minutes cold (I'm hoping that won't suffer when I have my bimini up, though Gary at PP said it should not be a problem). Ran my baselines (you have to do this initially to give the system something to shoot for running up to the gates, but it is supposedly not necessary to check them in the future). I was dealing with a pretty stiff wind today, but so much the better to test the system. Only had to refer to the manual once to jar my memory as to how to get to the quick calibrate screen (same as 6.5 ng). Once the baselines were set, I switched to GPS mode and ran it into some stiff breezes and and light wind rollers. Times were good (the worst it got was .03 off of actual at 36 mph). System is very smooth with no gassing. I was solo and didn't ski. Water was 54 degrees, so I'm kind of glad I didn't have the opportunity.

    I also ran it around in practice mode just to see how the menu was different. Held speed well. This mode is really useful with the ability to adjust off traditional slalom times by .1 mph variables. I think this will be extremely useful for free skiing, especially since it uses the crew weight variable unlike the old straight rpm alternative to slalom mode in 6.5 and earlier PP. I'm really loving how the screen has been cleaned up.

    The only other thing I had to do was adjust the clock for my time zone (menu and down arrow at the same time gets you to many settings menu. Among them is GPS settings and the skier memory).

    Overall, I think the system is great. I didn't have a chance to play with speed mode, but in slalom mode it does something I've never been able to get PP to do well---hold speed in the turns. No more hand gassing required. I'm really pleased with this upgrade. Reasonably priced and a definite improvement.
    1998 Ski Nautique (Red/Silver Cloud), GT-40, Perfect Pass Stargazer 8.0z (Zbox), Acme #422, Tunable Rudder.
  • Sinkoumn
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jun 2006
    • 578

    • MPLS - St. Paul, MN

    • Super Sport Nautique

    #2
    RE: Just installed Stargazer

    Awesome, thanks much for the write up! :grin:

    I am curious as to what the improvements are that they have made to the wakeboard mode - even though that still runs off of the paddle wheel, I really want to know what 'auto calibration' means...
    Neuston Boards
    Nautiques

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    • east tx skier
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Apr 2005
      • 1561

      • Tyler, TX


      #3
      In slalom mode, it checks the paddle wheel with GPS 6 times per second, but I don't think it is adjusting the baseline 6x per second. In a speed over water based application, I'd think adjustments would be fewer, if only for the fact that it may be dealing with a current.
      1998 Ski Nautique (Red/Silver Cloud), GT-40, Perfect Pass Stargazer 8.0z (Zbox), Acme #422, Tunable Rudder.

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      • CAN'TSKI
        • Feb 2007
        • 205

        • Boerne, TX

        • 2008 196 Limited 2007 211 Team 1995 MC Prostar 190 Tournament

        #4
        My son just started skiing in August and completed the course for the first time last weekend. We have been running in wakeboard mode @26-28mph 15 off. The slalom mode seemed complex on PP and I never messed with it. Also, we are running the course behind a 211. Other than smoothing out the loop when we exit and re-enter the course, do I need to get this now? And please guys, I don't need the "What you need right now is a 196." We are aware of that.

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        • east tx skier
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Apr 2005
          • 1561

          • Tyler, TX


          #5
          Originally posted by CAN'TSKI
          My son just started skiing in August and completed the course for the first time last weekend. We have been running in wakeboard mode @26-28mph 15 off. The slalom mode seemed complex on PP and I never messed with it. Also, we are running the course behind a 211. Other than smoothing out the loop when we exit and re-enter the course, do I need to get this now? And please guys, I don't need the "What you need right now is a 196." We are aware of that.
          At 26--28 mph, I would try running it in Slalom mode or rpm mode. PP used to suggest in the manual for 6.4 that free skiing be done in rpm mode. I tried it once and found it to be really jerky (that is, I pulled hard and the boat pulled hard back, but seemed to pull a little harder than me).

          As for the "do I need to get this now?" question. The answer is "no." As for the "did I need to get this today?" question. The answer is also "no." I don't let that stop me though. :grin: Your son ought to be more than fine with whatever mode of PP you're running. I would suggest going to slalom or rpm mode above 24 mph though.
          1998 Ski Nautique (Red/Silver Cloud), GT-40, Perfect Pass Stargazer 8.0z (Zbox), Acme #422, Tunable Rudder.

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          • east tx skier
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Apr 2005
            • 1561

            • Tyler, TX


            #6
            Just a little more ...

            The display is the same display I had with 6.5 ng. The upgrade kit is just a new master module and gps antenna.

            This is the display in the "system off" setting. If you have a satellite signal, it will display the time as well (though you have to adjust for time zone for some reason). Nice feature for someone like me who really misses the analog clock on his old boat.



            And here it is in "GPS Slalom" mode. As you can see, there's a GPS reception indicator in the upper-left portion of the display (it's not locked on because it's in the garage). Practice mode basically replaces Kx with a speed adjust over/under whatever slalom speed you're running. There's also "Classic Slm" mode, which is the same as 6.5 ng.

            1998 Ski Nautique (Red/Silver Cloud), GT-40, Perfect Pass Stargazer 8.0z (Zbox), Acme #422, Tunable Rudder.

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            • CradGen2
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Aug 2020
              • 1343

              • Horseheads NY

              • 1999 Ski 2000 Sport 2004 SV21 2007 216 1992 Malibu flightcraft 2008 210 2006 ski 2012 - 210 2016 BU 23lsv 1998 Sport 1997 Super Sport

              #7
              Can't Ski - What you need is a 196... I just had to say it. I couldn't help it. Yellow_Flash_Colorz:

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