2015 SAN 230 piggyback ballast upgrade

[moczygemba9395]

So I called back up to Wakemakers and talked to Spencer. As always he was very helpful. He created the custom bags and put all the fittings I needed on the order. He said with this custom bag (54x16x24) that the rear divider supports weren't necessary. He also said that I shouldn't need a bow sac. Of course if both of these are needed down the road I will add them.

One thing I did ask is if an upgraded prop was necessary. He said that it probably was as the boat came with a 1235. (14.5x14.25) He recommended a 2079 which is also a 14.5 inch props, but said that a 15 inch might work. I'm thinking of pulling the 2313 off of my old boat when I trade it in.

Has anyone run a 15 inch prop on their 230?

[moczygemba9395]

I will try to post pictures in near future, but there is a 2ft-ish section of the engine divider behind the removable section that is unsupported that seems to be an issue when the bags "roll" to the side and pushes it over towards the engine. Hard to explain but once you see it, it'll make sense.

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That sounds good, thank you. I'll look closely tomorrow also.

I really find it interesting that several people on here claim to be running the standard wakemakers 750s and yet say they can run with the trays in. I could see those bags blowing out the wall with the trays in for sure.

[Guntersville230]

Do the Wakemakers panel savers not work? I had them in my last boat and they seemed to help. Part of the reason for wanting the custom bags is to prevent that from happening.

My thoughts on the bow bag are two fold...help the boat plane out, and make the wave longer. I do agree with others who have suggested trying it with upgraded rear bags first, but I'm willing to bet it'll still need the bow weight.

I will try to post pictures in near future, but there is a 2ft-ish section of the engine divider behind the removable section that is unsupported that seems to be an issue when the bags "roll" to the side and pushes it over towards the engine. Hard to explain but once you see it, it'll make sense.

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[moczygemba9395]

I have also not ordered but 55x16x25 matches my measurements. I am considering increasing my width to 17 in to increase friction against hard tank and removable engine dividers in an attempt to increase stability and decrease the potential for the bag to "migrate" towards the rear. Apparently people have had issues with bowing of the rear dividers (aft of the removable dividers) and apart from massive pieces of plywood, no great solution has been identified as of yet.

Agree with the need for IBS, we likely would not wakeboard with full ballast so I plan to hold off.

Do the Wakemakers panel savers not work? I had them in my last boat and they seemed to help. Part of the reason for wanting the custom bags is to prevent that from happening.

My thoughts on the bow bag are two fold...help the boat plane out, and make the wave longer. I do agree with others who have suggested trying it with upgraded rear bags first, but I'm willing to bet it'll still need the bow weight.

[moczygemba9395]

Markj has a little more experience with bigger bags and moving lead around so he maybe able to help, but I do not currently run any bow weight. I do have some lead in the back but just enough to move to offset prop rotation/people. the set up you are talking about sounds like it will work great though...I would hold off on bow until you test out what you already have. UNLESS you plan to wakeboard with the back bags all the way full, then I am fairly certain you will need bow weight to get the boat to plane off. Good luck, post pics!

Thank you for the reply, I'm looking forward to tomorrow! I'll post the pictures as soon as we get it picked up.

[lakeeriemonster]

I have also not ordered but 55x16x25 matches my measurements. I am considering increasing my width to 17 in to increase friction against hard tank and removable engine dividers in an attempt to increase stability and decrease the potential for the bag to "migrate" towards the rear. Apparently people have had issues with bowing of the rear dividers (aft of the removable dividers) and apart from massive pieces of plywood, no great solution has been identified as of yet.

Agree with the need for IBS, we likely would not wakeboard with full ballast so I plan to hold off.

[Guntersville230]

We will be picking up our new 2016 SAN230 tomorrow and I would like to get the additional ballast ordered. What are everyone's thoughts on custom bags? I called up to Wakemakers and they recommended 53x16x22. I am going to remeasure tomorrow, but I was thinking that I would need a 55x16x25. I do plan on removing the trays so I am not worried about keeping them. They also recommended the 500 pound bow sac for the front.

I have 400 pounds of lead that I will be moving over from our current boat. I am thinking of putting that under the rear seats against the wall of the rear lockers.

What are everyone's thoughts on this set up? I do not want to do anything that involves adding extra pumps or visible bags, but we want the best wave possible. I hear that this model loves a lot of weight.

Markj has a little more experience with bigger bags and moving lead around so he maybe able to help, but I do not currently run any bow weight. I do have some lead in the back but just enough to move to offset prop rotation/people. the set up you are talking about sounds like it will work great though...I would hold off on bow until you test out what you already have. UNLESS you plan to wakeboard with the back bags all the way full, then I am fairly certain you will need bow weight to get the boat to plane off. Good luck, post pics!

[moczygemba9395]

We will be picking up our new 2016 SAN230 tomorrow and I would like to get the additional ballast ordered. What are everyone's thoughts on custom bags? I called up to Wakemakers and they recommended 53x16x22. I am going to remeasure tomorrow, but I was thinking that I would need a 55x16x25. I do plan on removing the trays so I am not worried about keeping them. They also recommended the 500 pound bow sac for the front.

I have 400 pounds of lead that I will be moving over from our current boat. I am thinking of putting that under the rear seats against the wall of the rear lockers.

What are everyone's thoughts on this set up? I do not want to do anything that involves adding extra pumps or visible bags, but we want the best wave possible. I hear that this model loves a lot of weight.

[lakeeriemonster]

Thanks guys for responses. Will make upgrades for next year. Love this boat!


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[markj]

I would definitely do it again.

[Neverenough]

Absolutely do it again!

[Guntersville230]

I have PM'd lakeeriemonster, but yes I agree that I would do it again as well. There if you need/want it and drain it for the extra storage.

[landlocked]

I would do it again in a heartbeat. Easy to do, inexpensive, and great result; bigger wave and more push.

[lakeeriemonster]

Wanted to revive this thread to see what people's experiences were with ballast upgrades. Noticeable improvement in surf wave? Longer, more push? Most important - would you do it again?


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[markj]

I had a real hard time using the hair dryer method so instead, I boiled a cup of water and dunked the hose end in that. The hose was like butter and so easy to work with after that.