2015 SAN 230 piggyback ballast upgrade

[Guntersville230]

Thanks!

[markj]

I think i have the same "question" can u directly convert from the 400 to the 750 without adding additional lines or vents....like is it just a "plug-n-play" upgrade?


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You don't need to run any new lines. Like others have said, call wakemakers. Theres a guy named Jason that works there that is very familiar with 230's. Spencer is too. I just ordered 55"X16"X26" custom sacks for mine. About 830 lbs on each side. Still waiting for a quote on a custom front sack from them...

[Shockthis]

I have a 2013 210, so I had to add mine after,I used flow rite connections. I Imagine that it would of used the flow rite connections. Did you go in your boat and look? If it is flow rite connections, then you just take them off, order new bags and new flow rite male connections (fly high has a different tread from Straight line) depending on the bag you bought. Screw them in with glue to your new bags and hook them back up.

I find it is nice to have a second set of bags anyway. If i go to a lake that has zebra mussels or milfoil , then I can let my boat dry out for a couple of weeks and wash it out with 150 deg water and put back in the other bags.

[Guntersville230]

I am using straight line sumo sacs. You just have to add your fittings. Fly high uses different fittings than the straight line ones. Just call wakemakers I am sure they will set you up.

I think i have the same "question" can u directly convert from the 400 to the 750 without adding additional lines or vents....like is it just a "plug-n-play" upgrade?


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[Shockthis]

I am using straight line sumo sacs. You just have to add your fittings. Fly high uses different fittings than the straight line ones. Just call wakemakers I am sure they will set you up.

[Stealthall]

I have a 14' 230 - would you mind posting a link to the bags you bought? The 750's....they direct connect?

[Shockthis]

I have 750s in my 2013 210. I put them in because that is what I had sitting at the store. I find that they just drain through the over flow vents so they probably only fill to about 300 lbs. I thought of putting a valve in the over flow line does anyone have any other ideas?

[markj]

Got it. Thanks.

[toomuchuv]

I changed mine and just put some clear PVC hose. I made it as short as possible so that it just holds the top of the bag up when completely empty. Honestly, cramming a slightly bigger bag in there may not be worth it. The 750s fit in there pretty well. Not worth ruining anything to gain an extra 50lbs or so IMHO....

[markj]

You just have to watch that the bag isn't too big that it messes with the overflow hose that connects to your hard tank.

Okay so are you saying that the bag needs to be lower than the overflow from the hard tank? One thing I'm concerned about is the flexibility of the input hose to the bag. Nautique did a good job on the length of the stock hose. It doesn't kink or bind whether the sack is full or empty. Now that I'm considering larger ballast sacks, I'm thinking I'm gonna need more flexible hoses that will move with the larger extremes of up and down motion as the sacks expand and contract at greater amounts. Those stock hoses are like crazy stiff.

[toomuchuv]

If that's the case, I wonder if having custom sacks which hold even more weight would be a good idea. I don't care about the trays either. I'm about to order some sacks and I can't decide if I should go bigger. I would assume the reinforcement kit would be a must if I go bigger than 750's.

You just have to watch that the bag isn't too big that it messes with the overflow hose that connects to your hard tank.

[markj]

I have a 2014 230 with rear bags swapped to 750s and originally I tried keeping the trays in. It is close but doesn't quite fit. The trays lift up a little when the bags are full. The compartment hatches will still close, but it puts too much pressure on the engine dividers. I took the trays out after seeing that it was bending the dividers, and to be honest I haven't missed the trays at all.

If that's the case, I wonder if having custom sacks which hold even more weight would be a good idea. I don't care about the trays either. I'm about to order some sacks and I can't decide if I should go bigger. I would assume the reinforcement kit would be a must if I go bigger than 750's.

[Guntersville230]

Great input, thanks!


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[toomuchuv]

One more thing.... have a look at your fiberglass in the back of the lockers (top, near vents). Mine was very rough with some sharp spots so I had to add some self adhering foam pads to keep bags from rubbing when full. I used sumo sacs and they fit quite well.

[toomuchuv]

I have a '14 and venting is not a problem. I actually put a fairly light weight clear hose on the overflow of the bag between the check valve and the hard tank because it really doesn't do much anyway. Both the hard tanks and bags fill at the same time vs the old way of filling the tank then bag like the older style systems.

Oh, BTW.... make sure you have pins to keep the divider in place. I had to add one to make sure it didnt pop out the bottom rail and therefore getting deformed.

hope that helps