Sounds like a plan! Would be cool to see the 23 vs the 25 surf wake as well.
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Stop by our cabin (blue/grey 2017 G23) and say hi! I also have 500 lbs of lead wake bags (50lbs each) if you want to borrow them. I know you have 600lbs already, but it might be fun to experiment.
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In about a week and will get back to trying to find the perfect weight distribution. I'm also thinking that sometimes if I know I don't want to play around with switching I will try leaning will full 1100 on port side (I'm regular) and differing weight on starboard to see what it's like?
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The plug in behind the code keypad was not pushed in all the way, took an hour to find but working great again
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You have got to post a picture of that huge wave. Wow that is some weight going on in your boat!
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Here is what I tried this weekend...Full stock (rears and center) plus two 900lb bags in the back piggybacked on the stock bags. I added 700lbs of leadwake bags. 150lbs tucked in the very nose, 200 in port side bow storage about midway back, 150lbs in starboard side bow storage midway way back, and 200lb by trash can for prop rotation. So I had 5350lbs in ballast but only 3 adults and 1 teen. The 3 women and 2 teens bailed because the weather was sketchy. I was really happy overall with the wave. It didn't wash out. Looking to get more length though. I only ran 11.8mph as I thought NSS capped out 12mph. Seems it caps out at 13mph so I am going to experiment more with speed this coming weekend. I also may try 1/2 full on center ballast as well. Plus I will have 9 teens and two adults in the boat. The only complaint I have is all the extra ballast up front did accentuate the known bow spray issue. It was never a real problem last year. Oh and it sucked gas....
Why the tow?
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So, I have finally had a chance to surf my new boat and wanted to post some findings.
I ended up putting 600lbs of lead weight (leak wake) up front in addition to the fat sacs to try to sink the boat evenly, 200 just in front of the sub and 400 around the nose fat sac. I was able to put about 850 in each rear locker without washing out the NSS and at 12.5 MPH I had a fantastic wake and must have been 30 feet behind the boat while surfing. I will continue to
play with it and update but super impressed with the wake so far! I was less impressed that I had to get towed in because the boat quit and would not start again.....
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Originally posted by Bevostein View PostI too am experimenting with extra ballast in my G25. The boat was new to use last summer so we spent most of our time enjoying it stock and not tinkering with it. I did have bags from my last boat and on two occasions put those in. If I am remembering correctly the stock surf setting is rear bags full and the belly bag 1/2 full.
On the first try I added a full 900lb bag to each rear locker and filled the stock belly bag to 100% full. The wave was washed out and I had to dump water from the rear bags.
On the second try late in the season, I again added a full 900lb bag to each locker, fully belly bag and a full 500lb bag in the bow. The wave formed and was very good. I think it could be even better with lead bags. The 500lb bow bag rolled back against the bow seatback near the windshield. I am hoping with lead bags I can stash those at the very front of the boat and get a better effect because of leverage.
I purchased 700lbs of lead bags from www.leadwake.com and plan to put 500lbs in the very tip and use the other 200lb to counter prop rotation. Another thing I am going to try is slightly listing the boat. If I am 100% full on the surf side, then maybe go 3/4 on the nonsurf (NSS) side. That should help raise the side of the boat that deploys NSS and address the issue Jeff raises about submerging the top of the NSS plate. Obviously the downside to this is you cant do transfers.
Lets keep this thread going as we experiment. There aren't many threads on slamming the 25s. We will be back at the lake on Mothers Day and I plan to add the lead and see how it goes.
DeanT. What 750lb bag did you add to the nose? Is it under the seats?
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Hi Bevostein,
Yes, it is the fly high sack under the front seats and with it full there is still quite a bit of room for lead, I am going to put as much as I can in the nose and then some more under port side where sub is located. I will update you again but it will be the end of June before I get into it again.
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You cruised by my house (blue house by the boat launch)and me and my buddy where on the dock wondering if it was a 23 or 25 . I guess he was right it was a 25. If you need help dealing it in we are pretty good at it. We both have nautiques.
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I too am experimenting with extra ballast in my G25. The boat was new to use last summer so we spent most of our time enjoying it stock and not tinkering with it. I did have bags from my last boat and on two occasions put those in. If I am remembering correctly the stock surf setting is rear bags full and the belly bag 1/2 full.
On the first try I added a full 900lb bag to each rear locker and filled the stock belly bag to 100% full. The wave was washed out and I had to dump water from the rear bags.
On the second try late in the season, I again added a full 900lb bag to each locker, fully belly bag and a full 500lb bag in the bow. The wave formed and was very good. I think it could be even better with lead bags. The 500lb bow bag rolled back against the bow seatback near the windshield. I am hoping with lead bags I can stash those at the very front of the boat and get a better effect because of leverage.
I purchased 700lbs of lead bags from www.leadwake.com and plan to put 500lbs in the very tip and use the other 200lb to counter prop rotation. Another thing I am going to try is slightly listing the boat. If I am 100% full on the surf side, then maybe go 3/4 on the nonsurf (NSS) side. That should help raise the side of the boat that deploys NSS and address the issue Jeff raises about submerging the top of the NSS plate. Obviously the downside to this is you cant do transfers.
Lets keep this thread going as we experiment. There aren't many threads on slamming the 25s. We will be back at the lake on Mothers Day and I plan to add the lead and see how it goes.
DeanT. What 750lb bag did you add to the nose? Is it under the seats?
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1100 on each side in the back is probably too much. What's happening is that water is flowing overtop of the NSS plates with that much weight back there, and that's why the wave is washing out. There is such a thing as too much weight when using NSS. More weight in the nose will probably let you run a little more weight in the back than you currently are with the 1100 sacs half full. Keep playing with it and I'm sure you'll find the best setup. The wave you posted above looks very nice!
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Nice water. Where are you located?
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