G25 extra ballast

[DeanT]

Hello,
I just purchsed a 2016 G25 and as it it my 3rd Nautique thought it was time to join this forum.

My question is about additional ballast on top of stock. On my old 230 I would have it so sacked out and leaning that the water would leak into the engine vent if I turned too quickly but the wake was awesome, half of my family is regular and the other half is goofy and I got sick of switching bags all day. Is there anyone here who has had experience really weighing down a G25? If so is there such thing as too much and how did you weigh it? I have the 550 with the 2:1 ratio so power should not be a problem.

Any info would sure be appreciated.

[Kporsch]

You should be able to run extra no problem. I have over 2000# extra in my G23. I have done this to 2 G's now. I have added two new water intakes next to stock location and 2 ballast puppy pumps wired to independent switches. Boat gets on plane no problem. Thru-hull pick ups and shut off ball valves were ordered from Nautiqueparts.com and are the same ones used by the factory.


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[DeanT]

I was thinking 1100 in each rear locker and 1000 under the front seats to start with but was wondering if you go too heavy how does the NSS respond to extra weight?


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[Metz]

You should be able to run extra no problem. I have over 2000# extra in my G23. I have done this to 2 G's now. I have added two new water intakes next to stock location and 2 ballast puppy pumps wired to independent switches. Boat gets on plane no problem. Thru-hull pick ups and shut off ball valves were ordered from Nautiqueparts.com and are the same ones used by the factory.


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Just wondering what motor you have been running with your G23 weighted right up?


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[Wayward]

I was thinking 1100 in each rear locker and 1000 under the front seats to start with but was wondering if you go too heavy how does the NSS respond to extra weight?


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You won't want that much weight in the rear of a 16+ G for surfing. For wakeboarding that would probably be a perfect setup, but not surfing. You'll have a short, super steep and washed out wave. With 1000 in the bow (under seats won't fit nearly that much), you would probably want about 1000lbs in the rear, total. Even at that point, you might have the NSS buried too much to work well. Best bet might be to stick with the 1000lb bags, and list the boat, if you want to really slam it.

I did a very comprehensive volume calculation on my G23, to see how much weight was possible under the front seats, including the area up into the gunwales behind the cupholders, etc.. Even with excluding the entire area that the recessed cupholder/speaker trim takes up, the best that a G23 could get is 550ish pounds for the entire bow under the seats. I know the G25 has a slightly longer bow, so you might get 650. That said, my calculations excluded the area taken by the cupholder/speaker, so it would be less.

If you do bags that just sit on the floor in the front compartments, and don't tuck up into the gunwales, the best you will get is probably about 350-400lbs in a G25.

[DeanT]

Thanks for the info, I might look into lead for the front. Can't wait to start trying, hard to surf with ice on the lake...


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[Kmayotte]

Congrats! Post some pics of the boat!

[DeanT]

Still have not picked it up yet, but this is it.

[Wake.BC]

That boat looks massive!!! Congrats on the big blue whale!



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[Kporsch]

Just wondering what motor you have been running with your G23 weighted right up?


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450 in both my 2013 and now in my 2017 G23


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[sgresham]

I have 750s in the rear locker's of my 2016 G25, and I don't have any issues with a short wave or washout, but I do surf at about 12mph, instead of 11. At 11 up to about 11.5, I'll get washout. The wave is massively steep though.

[DeanT]

Thanks for the info on the 750s in the rear! Do you put weight in the nose or the sides?

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[sgresham]

Thanks for the info on the 750s in the rear! Do you put weight in the nose or the sides?

I don't currently have any weight in the nose, and only about 200lbs of lead in the passenger side locker to combat prop rotation. I am toying with adding some bags to the nose lockers this year, but I don't know.

[Tallredrider]

You should be able to run extra no problem. I have over 2000# extra in my G23. I have done this to 2 G's now. I have added two new water intakes next to stock location and 2 ballast puppy pumps wired to independent switches. Boat gets on plane no problem. Thru-hull pick ups and shut off ball valves were ordered from Nautiqueparts.com and are the same ones used by the factory.


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Do you have any pics as to where you put the through hulls and where on the dash you put the switches? I am very interested in this sort of automated setup. Did you do a new overflow, or do you just watch the bag carefully, or just tie it into the stock overflow?