SAN 230 Surfing Setup Summary Thread

[thejean]

I don't think I have any photos from that weekend with 11 adults onboard. However, here's a video with only 4...

-Charles

Assuming you dropped some ballast when wakefoiling? Wave looked flat in that part of the video....

[charlesml3]

Assuming you dropped some ballast when wakefoiling? Wave looked flat in that part of the video....

Nope. Only increased speed to 12 mph.

[surfnjosh]

Why not just add 750's or 900's instead? Seems you end up around the same total rear ballast either way...

Because piggybacking doesn't work as good and runs the risk of collapsing your hard tanks and thus breaking your ballast level sensors. Removing the hard tanks is very easy and quick and with them removed and bags empty you can fit multiple boards in the rear compartments.
When trade in or selling time comes just simply reinstall the hard tanks . Literally takes 20 minutes.

[thejean]

Because piggybacking doesn't work as good and runs the risk of collapsing your hard tanks and thus breaking your ballast level sensors. Removing the hard tanks is very easy and quick and with them removed and bags empty you can fit multiple boards in the rear compartments.
When trade in or selling time comes just simply reinstall the hard tanks . Literally takes 20 minutes.

How do they come out? A bolt through the middle of the holes in the sides and bottom? Is there a bolt left sticking out of the hull that could puncture the bags when they fill?

So how do you connect the bags? Do you swap the bags tank piggyback connectors to the hard tank feed lines?

Also, when the tanks come out, is the bottom nice and smooth? Want to make sure nothing is down there to puncture the bags.

How many ports are required on the bags, 3 or 4?

How does the electronics work without the level sensors installed? Do you get an error code?

[surfnjosh]

I can only speak on my 12 but there's L brackets that attach the hard tanks to the floor via lag bolts. The floor has a recessed area in the front of the compartments as the tanks have a drop down section where the fill/drain hose connects. The rest of floor is flat and nothing to puncture the bags.


I just take the hose of the factory tanks and put a quick connect fitting on it and attach to bags. Don't cut it or anything. I set the factory overflow aside and use a longer aftermarket 1" hose off top of bag to the factory overflow thru hull.

I use the standard fly high 1100lb sacs they have plenty of ports but only need to use 2.

I don't get any error codes just need to restart the pumps twice to fill /drain.

[thejean]

Awesome stuff! Do the 1100's allow you to use the storage trays?

[surfnjosh]

12s don't have storage trays.

[Bevostein]

Not to be the fun nazi but jump roping the surf rope on the walk-through while under way doesn't look like the best idea. Especially since the jumper isn't wearing a life jacket. To each his own but that looks like a "hold my beer" moment in the making.

[thejean]

Not to be the fun nazi but jump roping the surf rope on the walk-through while under way doesn't look like the best idea. Especially since the jumper isn't wearing a life jacket. To each his own but that looks like a "hold my beer" moment in the making.

Yeah not my crew. Just found on the interwebs.

[charlesml3]

Yeah not my crew. Just found on the interwebs.

Not you didn't. You found it here because I posted it here. I posted it here because it's my boat and my friends.

-Charles

[thejean]

Not you didn't. You found it here because I posted it here. I posted it here because it's my boat and my friends.

-Charles

Yes sir that would be correct. I couldn't remember exactly where I found it. Thanks for clarifying.

[nautiques4life]

How do they come out? A bolt through the middle of the holes in the sides and bottom? Is there a bolt left sticking out of the hull that could puncture the bags when they fill?

So how do you connect the bags? Do you swap the bags tank piggyback connectors to the hard tank feed lines?

Also, when the tanks come out, is the bottom nice and smooth? Want to make sure nothing is down there to puncture the bags.

How many ports are required on the bags, 3 or 4?

How does the electronics work without the level sensors installed? Do you get an error code?

Empty 230 rear. If I'm feeling really nice I'll inflate my 1100's with air and take another photo

[nautiques4life]

alright, so this was trickier than anticipated, compressor hose doesn't reach the boat... So I filled it up and tried to shove it in. Unfortunately it doesn't fit fully inflated so I had to let some air out. Engine divider is out and it's ~80% full, but it should give everyone an idea of the size/fit of an 1100 in a 2012 230. Took other photos, but this site is a major PITA to upload... Tons of stupid error messages. I give up.

[nautiques4life]

[seveet]

A couple of thoughts after this weekend.

I had 14 people on the boat and all of the ballast full including the IBS. My 343 finally sounded like it was struggling at surf speeds. This was mostly in rougher water and as people were gravitating to the back of the boat. I still rarely turn more than 3200 rpm's. The wave was massive and tons of fun. Based on this here is my dream ballast setup.

1) Add an additional pump for each rear tank and up size the intake port to an 1 1/2 inch if necessary to allow for adequate flow.

2) increase the 750's to custom sacs to fit the space completely full ( I think that would be about 900 plus the hard tanks.

3) y in a 400 pound tube sac on the port side and a 250 on the starbourd side off the rear pumps under the seats

4) keep the IBS of the belly tank. Use as need to keep the bow down.

Set up- All full plus IBS as needed, hydrogate at 2,11-11.2 mph, NSS 2-3